i want to point out also tha we have heard from the manhattan da the manhattan da, alvin, bragg is declining to comment on the former presidents social media posts that he will be arrested on tuesday barbara mcquade, let me brin you in to the conversation because, what i would love for you to talk from your lega perspective what it means fo the former president to make that announcement that he made >> well,, jonathan and i think we have seen time and time again that donald trump always uses the strategy of the bes defense is a good offense. so most people would feel some shame upon being indicted or being arrested and so donald trump's playbook is to turn this around in a wa to use it with aggression to try to use it to his advantage so, once again that is about victimization. it is about grievance. and even calling for people to take our nation back which, as the congresswoma just said, sounds an awful lot like we'll be wild on januar 6th. so we may see protests on th streets, and that seems to be strategy here to try t demonstrate that the people se the some sort of a grave injustice. but

the manhattan rancheria voted on today, but we do know the manhattan district attorney impaneled a grand jury in january to consider whether alleged hush money payments. from donald trump, italy 16 -- 82016 campaign candidate -- potential charges include misdemeanor falsifying business records or that charge could rise to a felony if coupled with the intent to conceal working -- or commit a second crime. that may be a violation of campaign finance records. suppression of his alleged affair, is something that donald trump denied could have been a means double stir himself in the final weeks of the 2016 campaign for president. chubb -- trump has denied wrongdoing. his attorney has confirmed the indictment saying they would fight it. calling it a political prosecution for trump himself. we have had high dissipation and anxiety -- anticipation and anxiety this would happen. a series of messages through social media and through his fundraising apparatus condemning them as politically motivated in this prosecution. trump faces crew -- colonel exposure on a number of fronts -- criminal exposure

ever disrupting life in manhattan. and you do not have to worry about trump protesters slowing down for one second, anyone working on the manhattan district attorney's office or the grand jurors or here in the case here's what kevin mccarthy said about protests for trump i don't think people should protest this now. kevin mccarthy knows that violent mobs protesting for donald trump or very bad for the republican election prospects and so far trump supporters are falling kevin mccarthy on this one and not donald trump. but kevin mccarthy also made a statement this weekend that worried people concerned about the rule of law. hours after donald trump predicted his own arrest, kevin mccarthy tweeted in attack on the manhattan district attorney and said, i'm directing relevant committees to immediately investigated federal funds are being used to subvert our democracy by interfering in elections with politically motivated prosecutors. that was saturday. and today, the most childish committee chairman in the history of the h

donald trump indicating they will be arrested on tuesday by the manhattan district attorney's office. in his post, he is blaming a whole bunch of records o violent crime and making whole bunch of allegations about who has been funding things, but a the end of the day, he i indicating he expects to b arrested on tuesday of nex week he indicates to his followers, quote, protests take our nation back that type of language is incendiary and obviously suggests some type of inciting of violence by the forme president, in this case, notably, the president, th former president donald trump, has been making numerous posts he's been using his defens council to be able to do wage, a public relations war in th court of public opinion, to be able to talk about what he thinks is reportedly unfai treatment by multipl prosecutors and multiple district attorney an prosecutors offices. but this is actually donal trump's own words. this is not his lawyer, not hi lawyers, who are making th rounds, making claims, and offering up defenses about wha he's potentially facing, charges he could be facing what w

again, this is probably good for alvin bragg in manhattan with his crazy leftists in manhattan. the limousine liberals will be happy. they're diverting the manhattan da's office to go after trump and not prosecuting people raping and murdering and carjacking, maybe the limousine liberals will get mugged by reality. >> jesse: so you're saying you can't live in democrat run cities anymore. if you're political, they'll bring false charges against you. is that what it is? you can't trust democrat prosecutors anymore if you're a fair citizen of the united states of this country. >> you certainly can't trust the george soros funded prosecutors. look what they're doing. we have a garland appointed special counsel, jack smith, going after president trump for the noncrime of having his presidential records in the office of former president at mar-a-largo, which is allowed by the presidential records act. you have that fulton county d.a. going after trump for objecting to trump for a presidential election, what you're allowed to do. democrats didded in 1969, 2001, 2005, 2017 and now going

he's outside the manhattan district attorney's office in new york. we understand you have some new information yet just within the last minute and a half or so we have just gotten official confirmation from the manhattan district attorney's office. it's a brief statement and i'm just going to read it word for word. it says this evening we contacted mr. trump's attorney to coordinate his surrender to the manhattan da's office for arraignment on a supreme court indictment, which remains under seal guidance will be provided when the arraignment date is selected. so that is official confirmation from the manhattan district attorney's office, that the indictment has been handed down against donald trump. they have advised us as to trump's lawyers and that the official indictment, as i mentioned it's a few minutes ago to you, is under seal, which means it is not yet been made public. the official indictment and then of course, guidance will be provided when the arraignment date is selected. that would be the date. when donald trump needs to appear here and

daniels met remotely wit manhattan prosecutors on wednesday. the same day that michael cohen, trump's former persona attorney and fixer, who's no the key witness in brad' investigation, venic testifying for a second day in front of the grand jury. other key trump white hous figure is like, kellyann conway, and hope hicks, have also recently met with prosecutors in manhattan and just yesterday, source told nbc news that local state and federal law enforcemen agencies have already starte preparing security measures in new york in case charges are filed against trump. this is, of course, happenin against the backdrop of th start of the 2024 presidential race trump's campaign confirmed tha he will hold his first officia rally next saturday in waco, texas. joining me now by phone is m colleague, lawrence o'donnell, the host of msnbc's the last word lawrence, thanks so much for kicking us off at the 10:0 hour what do you make of trump' latest post? he's made a lot of claims an called for his supporters to protest other things in th past we run the, w

will now live in america history because, on that day at 7:11 pm manhattan distric attorney alvin bragg release this statement this evening, we contacted mr. trump's attorney did coordinat is surrender to the manhatta da's office for arraignment on a supreme court indictment which remains under seal and with, that manhattan district attorney alvin brag stepped into the spotlight o history as the first prosecuto to ever bring criminal charges against a former president o the united states. today the manhattan grand jury voted to indict trump after an investigation into his role in the hundred 30,000 dollar hush money payoff to actres stephanie clifford, also known as stormy daniels. in the final weeks of the 2016 election in a payoff tha prosecutor said affected the outcome of the presidentia election the new york times reports the felony indictment filed unde seal by the manhattan district attorney's office will likel be announced in the coming day by prosecutors working for the district attorney, will have asked mr. trump to surrender and face arraignment in charge that remain unknown

trump in a manhattan case if there are charges? >> that's gonna be up to the discretion of the judge, i terms of how to the grand jury proceedings will be released those things are reviewed by the judge once they've turne in and went the indictment i done, the minutes will b reviewed by the judge, and i suspect that alvin bragg, even if he is allowed some level of discretion from the judge is still going to keep a very tight lid on this. as did not prejudice anythin related to this case, because, as you've already pointed out, i fully expect that donald trump is going to go on th advance of an attack the credibility of that office he's going to attack the credibility of the witnesses, fully suspect it is also going to seek to change the venu outside of the five boroughs t try and get a courthouse tha is going to be much more favorable to him then he'l find between what he's facin in manhattan or anywhere els within the five boroughs of ne york city. >> charles coleman and harry lippman, thank you both very much for starting off ou

cnn's polo sandoval is outside the manhattan criminal courthouse for us. to katelyn first. what do we know about the possible arrest the former president has been posting on social media about? >> he says he expects to be arrested on tuesday, but he doesn't know. he's saying that, but his team in a statement following that truth social post of his says they have not been notified by the manhattan district attorney's office that there would be an indictment in the arrest of donald trump that he would need to be turning himself in. what we know about this grand jury investigation that it continues. it has been ongoing for months, but it is nearing the end. the reason we know that is because donald trump as the target of this investigation was invited to testify in front of the grand jury sitting in manhattan that has been looking at possible financial crimes related to that hush money payment his lawyer made to stormy daniels in 2016. there is another witness expected to testify on monday. so they're nearing the end, but the grand jury's work is not done here. the answer of w

the manhattan d.a. was donald trump when he a sitting president, trying to and had all the litigation and continued to investigate and would have had the same issues i think trying to a criminal case against the sitting president as the doj had. but why the investigation didn't get jumpstarted on the federal level at least once trump lost the election was no longer. i don't know. it's possible, i suppose that the feds were to the work was being done by the manhattan d.a. and the state attorney general. but if the feds want to do something they don't usually wait for state to finish. it really works the other way. so i just can't answer that. it's a question that's worth asking. does anyone have a question can line up at the microphone as we wait for someone to come over and ask a question, i'll ask a that's been raised. and since there's books being published, let's say the manhattan district attorney's office does move forward with an indictment. the microphones over here, how would this book complicat

he's saying shazam, in his words, the manhattan d.a. comes back and moves forward on something potentially against trump just after trump announces his reelection. they are doing a lot of work her to not focus on the substance of what bragg could be focusing on with trump, and instead to make it seem political. that's what we're also seeing the move on as they launched this counter offensive in the halls of congress, leveraging their house republican majority to bring bragg before them. this is just an ask at this point. it's not a subpoena. but when you see three of the most powerful committee chairmen going at this request, it gives a sense of how republicans could be trying to counter this even in the early phases before any kind of indictment has happened. >> so you have all of that messaging, and this idea that they've got to get out ahead of this and get the d.a. in there to answer questions. is there any consternation, concern about going out and defending donald trump, and then potentially being indirectly, directly involved in

, or any district attorney of manhattan in history, it is the terrorists. so terrorist animals and human scum just pure naughty language for human beings it is a terroristic of the manhattan district attorney, the gestapo but worse. it is the terrorist, who every day now, steps closer to coming, but criminal defendant trump. can offer discussion night is charles blow, thomas and there are times an msnbc political analyst his latest column for the new york times is titled trump may face prosecution, america faces a test charles what is the test facing america. >> test is what i like to call with a situation where we have causes inconvenient. the inconvenience of necessity markers faces several times in the history whether they know there's something we did should do they don't do it for political reasons. we allowed reconstruction to fall we allow jim crow to rise weed and step in in a major way because it was politically in communities so. america faces yet another one of those tests with whether or not to vigorously in appropriately prosecute donald trump.

tonight, in manhattan, the manhattan district attorney is making the statement that no one is above the law in the most emphatic possibl way available to him on th delivery of this indictment of the former president of th united states. >> lawrence, isn't it nice t have a concrete example of tha saying because frankly it was a sayin that seems to have lost it force overtime but i think new life has bee breathed into that saying, n person is above the law in america. what is so important is th deterrent value of formerl tried to hold a former president accountable for hi crimes never again will a president o former president and be able t rest easy knowing that he, o maybe some day she, can commit crimes with complete impunit and never be held accountable. things in a very real sens have changed today on the fron of holding high government officials accountable for thei crimes, and it feels like it's a good step forward for ou republic >> barbara mcquade, this is no new york law that don't trump' finding himself ensnared in. this is a law that he grew u in, in queens, and then when h mov

unprecedente move and grand jury in new york voted to indict the former president donald trump, part o manhattan district attorne alvin bragg's investigatio into a hush money payment, mad to the adult film star storm daniels back in 2016 as of right, now we do not kno what specific crime or crime the vice president's bee charged with, but we shoul know more on tuesday, when i going to one of trump's lawyers, he's expected to be arraigned. and we do know that alvin bragg, i've been focusing on a felony charge of falsifying busines records which carries a maximu prison sentence of four year we will forget the possibl prison sentence, here's what w can come expect in coming days it's trump so hundreds himself to authorities he will be take into custody like any othe person charged with a crime an then most likely have hi mugshot taken as fingerprint snapped. however unlike any other ordinary citizen, he doesn't d it alone it's gonna do so compete at all times by th secret service, it's part of a protective detail, they've bee coordinating with authoritie in new york about the unique circumstances o

those communications are now in the hands of the manhattan da. daniel side says the exchanges between daniels and current trump lawyer, joe tacopina dates back to 2018 when daniel approached tacopina about representing her. these communications raise the possibility the tacopina could be sidelined, for now, in turn from defending trump. tacopina denies that there is a conflict of interest and says he neither -- stormy daniels. that's it for us. tonight stay tuned for the last word with lawrence o'donnell. >> good evening, alex. -- saying, well, hey, it sounds like what michael cohen did is a very serious crime, with donald trump. i guess that's video donald trump hadn't seen before -- >> hiring joe tacopina -- and now alvin bragg has -- joe tacopina -- which could literally take joe tacopina off of this case. -- trump's defense. >> and alex, during your hour, there's been a huge development in washington and jack smith's investigation and the grand jury -- ultra fast-tracked appeal process going on. luckily, we've got andrew weissmann here and ot

all capital letters to the manhattan da, do the right thing. he does not want an indictment on his record. and he has always had a certain fear of being arrested. it sounds silly to say that out loud, but it's true. and he has cultivated a lot of relationships with that dynamic underpinning it. folks who may be able to help him if you got to the point of an arrest or an indictment. he made sure to keep them close. i would like to jump back, you were asking about the fundraising. i do think, from what i have seen in some polling lately, trump's bases doesn't seem to be going anywhere, but the biggest question i think republican voters are going to face in the republican primary is whether they think trump can win in november of 2024. if he can beat biden. he's got to bring back moderate republicans independents who have abandoned him for three consecutive election cycles at this point. we have seen him starting his polling within the last few months. that's because a large part he has been playing two smaller crowds. he's been answering question

manhattan d.a. alvin bragg opened a pandora's box of presidential political prosecutions alluding to what i was saying. leo. >> i tell you what he has done, he has basically -- we'll witness history next week. a former president basically be indicted. never before. what alvin bragg has done for political motivation has basically opened up every single american to a frivolous prosecution. what you have here is clear. a disconnect between the democratic elite and everyday american citizen. they see this is wrong. they see that it is purely political and what separates us, harris, from every other country, we have a rule of law. lady justice is supposed to be blind except for donald trump. they go after donald trump because everyone in this country knows they do not want him on the ballot. they do not want him to run for re-election. that's what the everyday american citizen sees in this political prosecution. >> harris: it is hard to get past. i said it to tucker last night. it is so hard to get past

at the manhattan criminal courthouse which is behind me. as for what to expect on tuesday there's an ongoing negotiation between the secret service and d a alvin bragg's office for we are told that the former president will not be handcuffed when he turns himself in. once the president flies from mar-a-lago, florida to new york city, and makes his way to the courthouse, which these are live , this is live footage actually of that courthouse today, we're told there will not be a public arrival, or a perp walk in front of the cameras. we expect him instead to be fingerprinted and have his mugshot taken before he's brought into a courtroom and told his charges. presumably he'll plead not guilty and be released. now, the indictment is sealed, which means trump and his own lawyers will not know the charges he faces until he's in front of a judge at his arraignment on tuesday. reportedly though, he could be facing dozens of charges related to business fraud. now, this morning, bragg's office declined attempts again by republican house judiciary c

we saw that happen in manhattan. that would be the final step before there would be recommended charges and a presentation to the grand jury. not being aware of some other witness. but to me this is the critical last piece of pursuing this particular issue and getting his direct testimony. >> andrew weissmann, and neal katyal, thank you both very much for joining this discussion tonight. and coming up, the manhattan grand jury investigating donald trump did not meet today, but it is going to meet tomorrow. it is scheduled to meet tomorrow. we will consider what might have caused today's slow down and what to expect tomorrow. that's next. on the line. visualizing a patient's most recent scan... will help speed up decision making in the er. and while the woolly mammoth is still extinct... that doesn't mean students can't take field trips to visit them. the metaverse may be virtual, but the impact will be real. only at vanguard, you're more than just an investor—you're an owner. we got this, babe. that means that your

the manhattan district attorney's office are going to have to work out a date. no date has been set yet. and i am just off the phone with trump's lawyers who say they will fight what they call a political prosecution. the security is going to be increased all over in preparation for potential protest. i am told that every member of the nypd has been told to report in uniform at 7:00 a.m. tomorrow. >> david: once the former president is brought to new york, still unclear what we will actually see of the president. >> whether there are cameras in open court will be up to the judge in real time. he's going to be processed, fingerprinted potentially. maybe even photographs, but whether we see much of him in a courtroom, we are not sure. if the president former president has his way, he may want all of this to unfold in public. >> david: leading us off tonight, former president donald trump will have to come to new york to face these charges. let's bring in jonathan karl live in washington. of course we have never seen anything like this before. donald trump facing f

. >> reporter: i manhattan grand jury voting to indict donald trump making him the first president in american history to be charged with a crime, the investigation has been going on for years and involves a $130,000 hush payment to actress stormy daniels in the closing weeks of the 2016 campaign, the payment he initially said he knew nothing about. >> reporter: did you know about the $130,000 payment to stormy daniels? >> reporter: the former presidents one time fixer and lawyer says he made the payment at trump's direction to silence her before the election. trumps legal team now acknowledges the payment but says trump was trying to protect his family, not his campaign. trump says he didn't have an affair with daniels and he didn't do anything wrong. >> from the beginning it's been one which hunted phony investigation after another. >> in recent weeks the former president stepped up his attacks on manhattan district attorney alvin bragg warning of death and destruction if he is indicted and urging his supporters to protest. the nypd is stepping up security around the court in lower

daniels met remotely wit manhattan prosecutors on wednesday. the same day that michael cohen, trump's former persona attorney and fixer, who is now the key witness in brags investigation, finishe testifying for a second day. in front of the grand jury other key trump white hous figures like kellyanne conwa and hope hicks have also recently met with prosecutor in manhattan just yesterday, sources told nbc news that local state an federal enforcement agencies had also started preparing security measures in new yor in case charges are file against trump. this is, of course, happenin against the backdrop of th start of the 2024 presidential race just last night, trump's campaign confirmed he will hol his first official rally nex saturday that is in waco, texas joining me now by phone is m colleague, rachel maddow, host of the rachel maddow show here on msnbc rachel, thank you so much fo joining us this saturday morning. what do you make of trump' latest post? he's made a lot of claims, and called for his supporters to protest other things in th pas

lower manhattan to answer to these potential charges. with that, would certainly raise some concerns about courthouse security. especially with this idea of the potential for demonstrations or rallies by trump supporters. perhaps even galvanized by what we heard from the former commander in chief for protests, and the concern is not necessarily protests but in going beyond a peaceful assembly. that's why local, state, and federal law enforcement in new york are actively engaged in these conversations about how they would respond in that event. and then, of course, the potential for counter demonstrations as well. another fascinating thread in all this is what is being told to john miller. the secret service detail in charge of donald trump's protection is actively engaged in other conversations as well with their secret service counterparts here in new york about the logistics that would come with transporting donald trump here to the manhattan district attorney's office to answer to these charges would involve a full booking process fro

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between stormy daniels and her lawyer, currently defending donald trump are now in the hands of the manhattan da. daniel says, the exchanges between daniels and current trump roller, joe tacopina dates back to 2018 when daniel approached tacopina about representing her. these communications raise the possibility the tacopina could be sidelined, for now, in turn from defending trump. he denies that there is a conflict of interest and says he neither met with, north spoke, with daniels. stay tuned that's it for us tonight now it's time for the last word with lawrence o'donnell. good evening lawrence. >> good evening >> of course there's video of him all over the world why drive saying hey it sounds like what michael cohen did was a serious crime with donald trump. i guess that is video that donald trump didn't see before hiring him >> yes exactly. now, alvin bragg has the communications between stormy daniels, and joe tacopina, which could take joe check a peÑa off this case in terms of trump's defense. >> alex during your hour, there is a huge development in washington in jackson's investigat

michael cohen is now a witness against donald trump in the manhattan grand jury. donald trump famously said, in the middle of his presence, when he felt besieged by the mueller investigation, get me a roy cohen. roy cohn is still donald comes idea of the kind of lawyer he wants. roy cohn became famous in the 1950s as a completely unethical staff are working for a completely unethical republican senator named joe mccarthy. from that era forward, the term mccarthy-ism, named after joe mccarthy, meant a reckless, lying, outburst by someone making personal accusations with no evidence. mccarthy-ism that became donald trump's own personal ideal throughout his life. it was ugly, but too many did not seem harmful to the country when before he became a politician donald trump was hurdling is mccarthy style invective at entertainers like rosy o'donnell. but then donald trump brought his joe mccarthy roy cohn operating style into politics and into the white house. and here is the most important thing about donald trump's continuing admiration of roy cohn, who was a mentor o

particularly in manhattan his jurisdiction. crime has gone up. recently shootings and murders are down, but overall crime is continuing to go up. so his effectiveness and progressive policies have been very much under debate in terms of people in new york city. i'm somebody who has criticized frequently his actions or inactions relative to the crime situation. but we need to take that and separate it from this current situation, this current case. they are two separate issues entirely. >> all right. commissioner and rikki, thank you for your analysis. i want to ask bob costa here in studio with me about the reporting you have gathered on this case. is it all about michael cohen? >> as it not all about michael cohen. after being outside the manhattan criminal court all week, it's clear, based on our conversations with sources, that the district attorney has documents in his possession that would be central to any case he eventually decides to mount, should it move in that direction, that it's not just about michael cohen's testimony. so often we h

a manhattan grand jury is investigating alleged hush money payments. trump denies any wrongdoing and sunday republicans rushed to his defense. >> i'm taken aback at the idea of indicting a former president of the united states. >> reporter: but not everyone is in lockstep. >> he only profits and does well in chaos and turmoil. >> reporter: manhattan district attorney alvin bragg said we do not tolerate attempts to intimidate our office. >> i worry that it will have a ripple effect legally and politically on the other pending investigations. >> reporter: trump also faces criminal investigations in georgia and washington. and the justice department has been presenting evidence before a grand jury investigating hundreds of classified documents found at trump's florida estate. >> michael cohen who's considered a key witness said he will return to manhattan on monday. what is the latest on where this case stands? >> reporter: cohen says that he was asked to appear as a rebuttal witness if the grand jury hears from his former attorney costello. cohen served

it goes directly against everything that this manhattan da has professed. he brags about lowering felonies to misdemeanors and not prosecuting. we've watched crime in new york where people are afraid to walk the streets. >> then it happened district attorney is a soros funded prosecutor. and so, he, like other soros funded prosecutors, they weaponize their office to impose a political agenda on society at the expense of the rule of law and public safety. he has downgraded over 50% of the felonies to misdemeanors. he says he doesn't want to even have jail time for the vast, vast majority of crimes. >> now, to be clear, crime in new york city is down. it is down more than 5% overall from last year. shootings are down nearly 15%. homicides in new york city year over year are down nearly 30%, under alvin bragg, among other criminal legal officials in the city. of course, none of that matters, because they're not really talking about the facts. they're not talking about the real human beings that live in new york city. mike pence, kevin mccarthy, ron desantis, i

and to charge it as a felony, the manhattan d.a. had to perform what many call legal gymnastics and say it was a campaign finance violation going down that road. numerous legal experts have pointed out that it would be monumentally improbable to prove that donald trump paid stormy daniels in an effort to win the white house instead of, say, an effort to save his marriage, et cetera. here's law professor jonathan turley weighing in on the indictment just a short time ago. >> much concern is that if this theory is actually the basis of the indictment, then this is a rather ignoble moment in history. donald trump may be the first former president to be indicted, but if this is the standard, he won't be the last . the case would rely almost solely on the testimony of former trump lawyer michael cohen, who claims that donald trump directed him to pay stormy daniels the hush money on the eve of the twenty sixteen election in exchange for keeping her quiet. but michael cohen is also a convicted felon who's known for stretching the truth. >

but he has saved the most vitriol for manhattan district attorney alvin bragg. the ex president insists as somehow, quote, racist in reverse for daring to investigate his misdeeds. in language, echoing his enticement ahead of january 6th, trump also used social media to demand his supporters, quote, protest, take our nation back, and all caps. speaker of the house kevin mccarthy, even in the head of the maga troll caucus, marjorie taylor greene, both essentially troll told trump to dial it down a notch, before he insights and deadly mob. law enforcement is taking the threat of politically motivated violence very seriously. there have been reports of heightened security at the u.s. capitol, metal barriers in place near the manhattan courthouse, as well as the trump tower. and in an email to staff, the manhattan da alvin bragg wrote quote, we do not tolerate attempts to intimidate our office or threaten the rule of law in new york. today's protest, put on by new york republicans and heightened up by the maga crowd, there were far more reporters present than actual

law enforcement officials already in lower manhattan tonight outside and inside manhattan criminal court today preparing for the former president's appearance. tonight here what we've now learned about what this now could all look like, what the american people could see play out early next week. here is our senior investigative reporter erin in lower manhattan tonight. >> reporter: tonight, sources tell abc news former president donald trump will surrender to authorities in new york on tuesday and be booked at the courthouse as a criminal defendant. until then, the indictment against him remains sealed but sources familiar with the case tell us trump is facing around two dozen counts including felonies stemming from a $130,000 hush payment to porn actress stormy daniels in the closing weeks in the 2016 campaign. >> did you know about the $130,000 payment to to stormy daniels? >> reporter: at first trump denied knowing about the payment but later admitted he did. his legal team claims he arranged it not to protect his campaign but to protect his family. it's not the only hush payment tha

his personal lawyers, the manhattan d.a.'s office, the secret service as was just mentioned, the court officers who are responsible for the immediate security of the courthouse and the larger picture, the nypd. i'm sure that the secret service is monitoring the threat environment. i'm sure that the nypd is monitoring the threat environment. i have to say that the new york city police department is very good at this kind of thing. they are responsible with the secret service for the security of the u.n. general assembly in manhattan every year, and the court officers in the nypd are accustomed to seeing high-profile criminal defendants come into 100 center street in lower manhattan for an arraignment, for a surrender, and so this one is clearly unprecedented, but they know what they are doing. i have a lot of confidence in the nypd, in the court officers and the secret service. a point that i think needs to be emphasized here is that the secret service is responsible for the physical safety of their protectees, not responsible

new push to get manhattan d.a. alvin bragg to testify on a weak case that federal prosecutors the d.a. he himself already dropped. trump's hush-money payment to stormy daniels. the lawyer for d.a. witness. with us senator markwayne mullin, byron donalds and dan meuser, former independent counsel sol wisenberg, former arkansas governor mike huckabee hans von spakovsky. we have the rescue of silicon valley bank. and we break down president biden's false claim in 2020, hunter biden got no money from china? and the new push to stop a costly new california reparations bill that other states could copy. the president's first veto, let's him politicize your retirement savings when his budget has no fix to social security? i'm elizabeth macdonald. "the evening edit" starts right now. liz: welcome to the show. we begin with stocks up. banks rally as the fed along with five other central banks announced coordinated action to open the dollar spigots to boost bank liquidity. ubs moving to buy credit suisse for $3.3 billion. tr

good morning to you, ryan and here in lower manhattan. after more than a week of preparations, the nypd is deploying all across the city to tighten security. this morning police on high alert on the heels of trump's indictment . what's important now is to keep an eye on certain areas which people will gather the nypd out in full force today, with all officers ordered to reniform at seven a.m. preparing for potential unrest. we're not going to see this this kind of mayhem we saw elsewhere, so these places will be really tightly monitored to aviation and rooftop observation posts. we have a lot of assets out there that can help us as well as video cameras in and around lower manhattan, so i don't think anything will close to what happened as what happened on january, 6th. trump called for protests after claiming he was going to be arrested last week that call to action fell flat, with only a handful of demonstrators turning up at the manhattan courthouse. and while officials say there are no credible concerns right now, the biggest concern

how would you even do it in manhattan? >> joy, the first thing is you have to consider whether you're going to seek a change of venue, because in any venue across the united states of america, you're talking about the former president. everyone is going to have an opinion. the standard, the question, the issue that any judge and any prosecutor speaking as a former prosecutor is going to seek to employ is, does your opinion range so strong that it prevents you or may prevent you from being fair and impartial on this particular matter? and that is a question that the judge is going to ask. we understand that you have opinions. we understand that you are going to have an opinion about donald trump. is that opinion so strong, is it so prevalent that it will prevent you from being fair and impartial here with the facts and the law as they are given to you? now, if a juror says no, then the judge has to go forward with that and then either of the sides or either of the parties has to then make a decision as to whether to use any

manhattan grand jury voted to indict donald j. trump on thursday for his role in paying hush money to a porn starstar that's according to four people with knowledge of the matter and the statement will shake up the presidential 2024 race and forever mark him as the nation's first former president to face criminal charges." i'm going to continue reading from "the new york times" story on the breaking news "the federal indictment under seal by the manhattan district attorney's office will be announced in the coming days by then prosecutors working for

expertise on the way things work in manhattan grand jury. what is your sense of the possibilities and why mr. pecker would return to the grand jury today. >> so, there is no question -- so there's no question that in a case like this, witnesses sometimes get called back. it is not unusual in a complex case to have a witness who, by media reports, testified at the beginning of the grand jury to come back at some point to add additional details as the case is evolving in the grand jury. and there isn't any question as you said in your read in that david pecker is a critical witness. he's a critical witness because he can cooperate, backup michael cohen and he's a critical witness because he sets up the district attorney is a looking for a falsifying business record charge. he steps up to the second crime that is yet to falsify a business record within attempt to commit another crime. and in this case that could be a violation of the -- and isn't any question that the car, according that to what has already been written and what the prosecutors

we're going to start with kara spinel in manhattan. kara, take us behind closed doors, what's happening with the grand jury right now? >> reporter: well, boris, you saw bob costello, he's the attorney that worked with michael cohen several years ago. we saw him arrive about 1:00. so he's been about an hour behind closed doors as far as we know. but the grand jury process is secret, so we really don't have a lot of clarity what's going on behind the scenes. hi is in there, according to a source, he went to the d.a.'s office and went to trump's attorneys and said he has evidence that the person that facilitated the hush money payments pleading guilty to former charges saying that the former president directed him to make the payments. certainly a key witness. now costello has come forward and saying the information he has is contradictory. and trump's attorneys would say what costello would tell the d.a.'s office, saying when he was working with cohen, he was not aware that the former president had committed crimes. costello has hundreds

he has an obligation to keep people in manhattan safe. so, he's working with the g -- the fbi, the nypd, secret service, court offices. all law enforcement, they know how to do this. the manhattan has the united nations physically located and every year we have heads of state, prime ministers, presidents, kings. sitting presidents. from all over the world come to manhattan, they know how to do this. so, all -- they're just preparing for it, and they are determining how to do, it went to do it. they can easily get him in and out, safely. but they also know, he is going to create havoc, frankly, he is going to perp walk him self. he's gonna be the one to put on a show and insights -- >> he wants. it >> he said that he wants to be seen in handcuffs, yes. >> exactly. so, law enforcement knows what that will do. some nations have to prepare. >> given your position as a top aide to former manhattan da, cy vance, who started this investigation rather later, put it on hold. why did he do that? >> look, you know, he put this case on hold, partly b

this is just the manhattan. this is just the borough, d a. >> south carolina senator lindsey graham called the da's actions which come during trump's 2024 presidential reelection campaign. quote, the most irresponsible decision in american history by any prosecutor. following the news, trump supporters rallied outside his mar-a-lago estate where the president currently resides and after trump called on his maggie bays to protest is looming arrest. barricades have been erected around the manhattan district attorney's office for days. the da's office says they are working with trump's team to coordinate his surrender. trump is expected to turn himself in tuesday. house republicans who do have subpoena power have promised to investigate the investigators. in this case, they've already demanded the da overturn documentation relating to this investigation. >> the da at this point is refusing to comply for now in washington, raquel martin, back to you. >> it's 5.34, in the east bay. the police department has now put m

and manhattan grand jury is slated to meet tomorrow. and donald trump's legal headaches are, it seems, coming front and center from every possible angle. joining us now are suzanne craig, investigative reporter for the new york times and one of the league reporters in the times pulitzer prize investigation into trump's princes, also with this is rebecca right fee, a former assistant da in the manhattan district attorney's office. thank you so much for being here, there are not two better people here, to break this all down with. thank you for coming. let me just, craig, when you trace back the humble origins of all this, the 2018 what street journal story that, talked about hush money payments to porn star in the way in which that moment set in motion, is kind of cataclysmic large investigations into trump to where we find ourselves now on the eve of what may be a really explosive moment for donald trump and the trump organization. you knew this man and his organization quite well, from your reporting. did you expect that that would be

>> so, let's start with manhattan. in manhattan there were signals last week that they were, according to people familiar with that grand jury, very close to voting on whether to indict or not. then something seemed to change in the public understanding of what was going on. and that process seemed to slow down a little. next week is going to be a week of waiting to see if that grand jury actually moves forward or if there is some wrinkle brought on by the last-minute hail mary defense strategy to give the grand jury additional information to try to change their minds or change their momentum. in the classified documents case, what we're really seeing i think is, if you look at the witnesses that they have come, particularly the lawyer who did the search at mar-a-lago originally for the documents that the fbi and the justice department decided was so problematic and so insufficient. i think that the fact that that person was in the grand jury today really suggests that there was just a very tightening circle of people

on november 2nd of that year alvin bragg is elected as th next manhattan da. and that brings us to this year, 2023 in january, michael cohen meet with investigators from th da's office, a sign that alvin bragg's investigation is picking up steam at the end of the month, the new york times reports tha alvin bragg has convened a grand jury to examine th evidence in the hush money probe, and that gets us to thi month, march on march 9th, the da's offic invites trump to testify befor the grand jury four days later, on march 13th trump's lawyer says he will no be testifying before the grand jury that same day, michael cohen testifies before the grand jur for the first time march 15th, he testifies again stormy daniels meets wit investigators from the da' office we don't know where this timeline will go next. but i have to bet donald trump never thought in 2006, 17 year ago, that when he was allegedl having an affair with stormy daniels, the actions he woul later take to keep that quie might get him indicted we will be right back. (man) what if my type 2 diabetes ta

kathryn christian, former pe special assistant da in th manhattan da's office. in valuable to have you here with us tonight. thank you. let's let's talk to andrew weissmann. one of the senior prosecutor on the robert mueller specia counsel investigation. andrew, what a day thank you for making time to b here tonight >> you're welcome. did it make your hair stand up the wrong way or did it or acute work you otherwise when said that this is likely to be boring i believe that these charges what we expect them to be an what we have seen of other charges even brought against donald trump in a manhatta criminal court, i feel like we ought to let people know tha this might be something that i sort of like watching pain dry. it might be a little boring. as a prosecutor who has fought many white-collar cases, doe that bother you? did i offend you >> you certainly didn't offend me, rachel i think there are a couple o points one, no matter how much on anticipates a day like this, when it actually happens there is, i think, for anybody, ther is a certain amount that i sinks

manhattan d.a. initially delayed it and passed on it. when you have an attorney general in new york, a manhattan d.a. that targets one particular american in their campaign, i think that offends the notion of the overwhelming majority of the american people who believe in fairness, who believe in equal treatment before the law and this appears to be just one more example of the kind of two-tier justice system that the american people have had enough of. >> the trump-pentz justice department charged trump's former attorney michael: over these very same payments. i'm quoting from the trump justice department -- in coordination and at the direction of donald trump. he spent more than a year in prison, was that a crime? >> i can see that lying to congress is a crime. >> that wasn't the only charge. >> i'm traveling around the country a lot and we are going through the process of making decisions about our future. >> we will get to that. >> i was in i would yesterday and i was in three different cities and even though this has been in the new