has russia has africa think russia has been isolated? do you think m rows there was, believe god, the world's. so i don't believe that there was to us, there was, it's everywhere and it's everywhere where we get treated as, as tutner. so that's denton and we've been hearing it for full zelinski said blue conservative precedent to saying pentagon is saying the statement if you ever know with just saying that, but it's not really busy and see in deaf in duffy there was between the with government they don't care about african asia. so it's, it's a boot offensive in africa to say less isolated, many different count the states that are in good terms with russia not counted. so you can only be counted if you do, you know that because that's what they've been trying to achieve, that i did with money that i did. but now how many countries are going to take to war if they want to do that, the economy that don't as well, i'm really sorry that is already exhausted. it's completely unfounded. it's computed not to believe that the worst it must be n

because, oh, russia already deployed nuclear weapons are to colleen and grad, which belongs to russia, but also it's very close to the european union. this is one step. and, and i think that, oh, put in really understands that the of trust in the west towards these intimidation and is falling. so he needs to do the next step and the next step and the next step . and it's very important not to ignore it, but i think it's really, as it was said before, he tries to prevent the west from delivering those weapons. that would really might be a game changer because they would be able to reach russian occupied territory. and even our russian occupied tonya. so do you think this is a distraction because a lot of people are calling it bluff. ah, this is a big word. i wouldn't, i'll say it's a bluff, but on. but i think of the west should. oh, really think well about the, the threads and the dangers and ask themselves and discuss what would be worse for the west of ukraine would be defeated, or if there would be, oh, i don't know. 123 percent of really a tactical use of tactical nukes, tactical

for russia, however, russia is selling china oil and gas at rock bottom prices. some cynics have said in the past that russia is a, i'm quoting john kane here, the u. s. senator. he said some time ago already. russia is a gas station masquerading as a country. is 13 essentially locked king russia into that kind of a status or the same. but ross is not a gas station. ross is much more than the gas station. if you look what's happening in africa, it's not on the architect by then africa. it's perfectly frank about corporation, between chain in the us, the china building, the introspection, many african countries interested washington brains and africans because the influence of russia, russia, info, well fair enough because that extremely, extremely struck. so it's cooperation on many different levels so much more than the gas and oil, it's on the global scale. it's against united states, against the best, against the little democracy of the state concept and against the whole set of the rest of the radios. we used to have here in the vest it's in so it's so much m

for russia, however, russia is selling china oil and gas at rock bottom prices. some cynics have said in the past that russia is a, i'm quoting john kane here, the u. s. senator. he said some time ago already. russia is a gas station masquerading as a country. is 13 essentially locked king russia into that kind of a status are the same, but ross is not a gas station. ross is much more than the gas station. if you look what's happening in africa, it's not only architect by the africa. it's perfectly frank about corporation between 10 in the us, the china building, the infrastructure in many african countries. interested watching the brains americans because the influence of russia, russia, info, well fair enough, it is externally extreme destruct. so it's cooperation on many different levels so much more than the gas and oil. it's on the global scale. it's against united states, against the vest, against the liberal democracy of the state concept and against the whole set of the rest of the videos we used to have here in the vest. it's in so it's so much more for

well, never be a victory for russia. wait, we shall see what you're still waiting my to do a new modem, but you look at a meal. crane war is a proxy war. this is a war between russia and the united states. milan are made, it comes to nurse, she kept them in carbon dioxide. america for she was, are in europe, not in europe. engage in conflict with russian forges. the american forces are hearing the friend nato allies. what happens if nato escalades even more than the special military operations become a war when you put them up? so that was a demo or another 1000 is my store. i see it, i see your to us. thank you. costliest. i mean, live, so i, you sleep, you sure you can you stuff to with almost them once you in only this, don't furnish them or in your sewage. never speak of the girl who's with the following sanctions imposed on russia in the you and elsewhere in the world. electricity and gas prices have risen sharply. protests are taking place all over year. no upper spend a day has been base on sheep annuity coming fr

on the other hand, russia can't possibly win because the u. s. weapons that are given to ukraine is, will devastate them at the same time by the ukrainians, or simply be pushed back and forth and nothing will happen. so the real point here is, is far work. it's got to be negotiated and a negotiation is very, very difficult. there is no geographical point where we can divide that up to forces. well, we're talking to an advisor for the progressive caucus in congress, in a week or so as time. and he's been saying that negotiations are off the table a a to remember, attract a letter, asking for negotiations, calling it scanned. and being called defeatist, you say that russia car, when i mean some say that all already arguably in the global south, russia has already, one, not least obviously the rubel currency, but the in terms of the deals now being done between bricks countries. the chang, i cooperation organization, russia has already begun creating the new world order that so many have predicted, i think, strap for and your organization constan

i think this sir trade in local currency in between china, russia and in china, russia and with other countries. already a trend because united states has weaponized the u. s. dollar, it's no longer public. good. the su play some row of that. yet, on the whole, it's increasingly weaponized. so this is a 2 year tremendous dis service to united states. as for china, russia, i think the, from the figure i checked, it used to be less than 20 percent. now it's the 50 percent in local currency, chinese currency, russian currency. so it's a good trend. anyway, nice states, a weapon as everything they to all in chinese see in the lift a piece of rock to strike. i so feet were that were the reason i mentioned sanctions me that they were in the news a couple of weeks ago because the u. s. accused china of perhaps planning to send lethal aid to russia, weapons to russia, something that both sides have denied. and what do you make of those accusations by the u. s. that china was wanting to do that solution? indeed, the, this is a fake news. china, russia have strategic pies and we have a normal t

for russia, however, russia is selling china oil and gas at rock bottom prices. some cynics have said in the past that russia is a, i'm quoting john kane here, the u. s. senator. he said some time ago already. russia is a gas station masquerading as a country. is 13 essentially locked king russia into that kind of a status or the super ross is not a destination. ross is much more than the gas station. if you look what's happening in africa, it's not on the arctics. both in africa, it's perfectly fine cobra corporation between china and ross, the china buildings construction, many african countries and thrust washing the brains of rhythms because the influence of russia, russian info, well fair enough is extremely, extremely struck. so it's corporation and many different levels. so much more than gossip oil, it's on the global scale. it's against the united states, against the verse, against the liberal democracy of the faith concept and against a whole set of the rest of the videos we used to have here in the vest. it's in so it's so much more for them or their l

russia is presenting this as a war by the west against russia. that is the message you get on russian television from morning until night, and i'm sure, in the days to come, thatis and i'm sure, in the days to come, that is how the russian state media will represent these arrest warrants. will represent these arrest warrants-— will represent these arrest warrants. ,, . ,. , ., warrants. russia describing into more as an _ warrants. russia describing into more as an evacuation - warrants. russia describing into more as an evacuation rather i warrants. russia describing into i more as an evacuation rather than warrants. russia describing into - more as an evacuation rather than a war crime. very interesting. but what effect could this have? lots of speculation that this could restrict president putin's movement and could prevent anything like this from happening again if it indeed has happened, and it could turn president put me into an international pariah. president xi jinping expected to come there in the next few days. in jinping expected to

instead, there are warnings from the us about possible arms deliveries from china to russia, and russia's ally, alexander lucas shinkel personally traveled to china. both sides are unable to find an agreement and our courting non aligned countries like g 20 host india, for example. which is seen a wave of diplomatic efforts, including a visit by german chancellor. it will have choice. so on to the point we ask, war and ukraine, our new alliances, dividing the world with . welcome to this weeks to the point i'm, how are you? i guess it's good to have you with us, and i'd like to introduce our guests this week. felix e is a journalist, a long time corresponded in china and currently works for the specialized german use outlet. china table cut. yeah. glow guy is a freelance journalist and russia experts and you shabba is my colleague from dw joining us today from bar to all 3 of you. thank you very much for being with to day. and i'd like to start with you. so talking about the so called war of words that we've seen also in the g 20 foreign ministers meeting that is taking place in india as

rum russia? >> so i'm not going to predict any sanctions today, but as the president said in a statement we plan to announce additional sanctions thaten will look to mt our two objectives can which are to go after the military and socialized complex russia has and also to cutpl off their sources of revenue going forward. a big piece of what we're going to do w using sanctions is alsoo after the networks that helping to facilitate invasion. in the coming visual c additional actions that will take that is here in the united states but to my larger point in collaboration coronation with allies and partners around the world are part of his coalition. >> in the back, please. >> thank you very much. [inaudible] [inaudible] >> you mentioned chips. sorry, thank you. china's providing nonlethal aid. however, there are reports about china's willingness to provide lethal aid. maybe not the highest technology but specifically ammunition or basic matÉriel. secretary blinken in munich recently met with the ch

you must support russia. you must actively support russia, and you shld defend russia. sean: boikov has led groups of australian cossacks to russia where they fired guns and visited a military training facility. [gunshots] sean: in 2018, simeon boikov told a russian media outlet, "we have a unique opportunity to support russia from within an enemy state." he was referring to australia. he said cossacks in australia could "pursue a pro-russian position, lobby politicians and members of parliament, oppose anyone who lies about russia, attacks russia, ormposes sanctions. basically, they can wage an information war." sean: why do you regard australia as an enemy state? simeon: no, australia, in this context, a state which is placing sanctions against russia and behaving in an anti-russian manner, you know, in that way could be perceived that the activities are not the activities of an ally. the main thing to know is we're not against australia at all. we love australia. we will defend australia, and we'll try to defend it, and we wanna facilitate the rehabilitation of austr

you say that russia, when i mean some say that all already arguably in the global south, russia has already, one, not least obviously the rubel currency, but the in terms of the deals now being done between bricks countries, the shang i cooperation organization. russia has already begun creating the new world order that so many have predicted, i think, strap for and your organization constantly talk about. the possibility of one possibility is not a reality. the fact is that russia made a massive intelligence failure before the worry. he did not and anticipate how well you created a fight. it did not really understand that the europeans would not side with you, would not side with russia norris to drain neutral. and he completely misunderstood the united states and what was going to happen. so at this point, after a year, he's time triggered a small fraction of ukraine. so in russia, there is a serious question, as you've asked when does this end? and is also the question asked, why haven't we done much better than we're supposed to? the expectation was that this would be a fast war. it isn

what russia certainly does, just given it's precarious position. russia really has a few allies left and so it needs china as a source of revenue to sell oil and natural gas to and now increasingly or resupply of all different types of things. most critically computer chips just given that russia has been cut off from those and needs it not only to power its economy, but also to keep its war machine alive and kicking. so china has been a critical conduit, and china also has been running useful interference for russia. vice are touting russian propaganda spreading it not just within china, but across the developing world where china has great influence. so clearly russia is benefiting more right now, but that doesn't mean that russia is not important to china. russia is also very important for chinese interest. what are the chinese interest? why think, 1st and foremost, you don't want. china cannot allow russia to go down in a humiliating and catastrophic defeat because that might be stabilized russia itself. and then china would have to deal with a d, stabilised, russia, ryan, on its

this our, the meeting between the ages of russia and china. ah, the chinese president is expedited on tuesday to hold official tools with his russian counterpart by them in person 1st in a small meeting and then in a broader gathering chinese leader, she ging ping is on a 3 day visit to moscow in his 1st trip abroad since he was reelected to historic that term. oh yes, i am very pleased to be in moscow at your invitation, especially after another reelection. and i chose russia as the 1st country for a foreign visit, the chinese side, please. great attention to relations between russia and china, as this has its own historical logic. since we are the largest neighboring countries, great strategic partners. for more details on other visit, less growth live to c, d t, and correspondent m bathing dong to jew. thanks for joining us. here about the now, why did she jing choose russia as his 1st place of visit after his re election? well, thanks for having me. well, i, you know, the relationship between trying on the russia go way back. you know, we'

for russia, however, russia is selling china oil and gas at rock bottom prices. some cynics have said in the past that russia is a, i'm quoting john kane here, the u. s. senator. he said some time ago already. russia is a gas station masquerading as a country, is 13 essentially locking russia into that kind of a status or the same. but ross is not a destination. ross is much more than the gas station. if you look what's happening in africa, it's not only architect both in africa, it's perfectly fine. colberg corporation between china and ross, the china building means restriction, many african countries and thrust washington brains over guns because the influence of russia, russian info. well, fair enough, it is extremely, extremely struck. so it's corporation and many different levels. so much more than gossip oil. it's on the global scale. it's against united states, against the person, against the little democracy of the state concept and against the whole set of the rest of the videos we used to have he and the vest it's in. so it's so much more for them on a

but the bond between russia and china very strong. they share close links in the economic, scientific, and military space is the partnership in the bricks alliance. and the shanghai cooperation organization is deepening. washington has long opposed russia, china relations, which it views as a threat to a u. s. dominated unipolar world. he is a reminder of some of its previous statements around the world. we face rogue regimes, terrorist groups, and rivals like china and russia, that challenge our interests, our economy, and our values. in confronting these horrible dangers. we know that weakness is the surest path to conflict and unmatched power is the surest means to our true and great defense. you can call them our friends if they're building weapons that can destroy united states of america. and therefore, we have to develop the capability to respond the u. s. which has lawrence at least $251.00 military intervention since 1991, according to its own government sources, stands accused of hypocrisy, both china and russia and this is

i imagine he won't leave russia. _ russia is he? i imagine he won't leave russia. i— russia is he? i imagine he won't leave russia. i do _ russia is he? i imagine he won't leave russia. i do think - russia is he? i imagine he won't leave russia. i do think he - russia is he? i imagine he won't leave russia. i do think he is - leave russia. i do think he is absolutely guilty in this. he started the war and he certainly approved this sort of move. he in his own way deserves to go to court whether he will do it or not i do not know but it is an important if not know but it is an important if not vital move ofjustice. there were thousands of children's deported. were thousands of children's deported-— were thousands of children's deorted. ~ ., ., ~ ., , deported. what do you think it means for putin in terms _ deported. what do you think it means for putin in terms of— deported. what do you think it means for putin in terms of his _ deported. what do you think it means for putin in terms of his global- for putin in terms of his global standing diplomatically? there are many countri

-russia arms control. furthermore, it promotes instability and it is more likely to drive countries to band closer together for the common defense. and it will not compel the united states to back down in its support for ukraine. in terms of how we got here, let me outline russia's noncompliance with new start, which began long before putin announced his intention to suspend the treaty. during the pandemic, the united states and russia mutually accepted a pause to new start inspections. in june 2022, that understanding lapsed after it became clear that both parties could resume inspections while keeping our inspectors and inspected parties say. in august 2022, russia refused to comply with its obligation under new start to facilitate inspection activities on its territory, and russia has maintained that position since then. contrary to russian assertions, there is nothing preventing russian inspectors from traveling to the united states and conducting inspections. since the summer of 2022, we have made cry

push russia back. i don't think that most europeans have an adequate conception, that in these circumstances, a great power like russia will respond with any means at its disposal. i'd like to be, i'd like to leave it as an ad. it is that it's clear what i mean. i guess the most europeans are aware of this. absolutely not. and so with the united states, also with china. i mean, it's, it says, you know, international politics want to one. i mean, it's the, the, the basic thing that the people study in international affairs class. now can i ask in the last, the very last question because you don't sound very optimistic, but what's your best home for the next couple of years as far as russia, europe and the whole world is concerned. yes, you're right. i know by disposition, an optimist, and the last decade has generally proved me right. but obviously we'll have to do what we can do. so said that even at the end, tomorrow we should start at least one last tree. so i think we have to reach an understanding

push russia back. i don't think that most europeans have an adequate conception, that in these circumstances, a great power like russia, well respond with any means at its disposal. i'd like to be, i'd like to leave it as it is that it's clear what i mean. i guess the most europeans are aware of this. absolutely not. and so what the united states, also with china. i mean, it's, it says, you know, international politics want to one. i mean, it's the, the basic thing that the people study in international affairs class. now can i ask in the last, the very last question because you don't sound very optimistic, but what's your best home for the next couple of years as far as russia, europe and the whole world is concerned. yes, you're right. i know by disposition, an optimist, and the last decade has generally proved me right. but obviously we'll have to do what we can do. so said that even at the end, tomorrow we should count at least one last tree. so i think we have to reach an understanding that you, c

our for to lies us who are coming from russia. so there's a lot of african needs from a power house laid out. we are friends to everyone and we are not in imminent enemies to anyone. so russia has come up to a certain, personally through our diploma to tell us we've had by little rentals. and we are no child, we're not shy of associating with russia. but especially as of the guns, i'm an assorted. there's no binding a clements other we've made with the west. so if for us are comes for us. we are open tu, tu, tu, tu, tu, tu? tu, rushing a commitment to promote peace and stability, and an israeli pledge to stop discussion of further thought on that. that's according to our joint communique coming out of the security conference in sharm el sheik between israel and palestine. the government of israel and the palestinian national authority reaffirmed their joint readiness and commitment to immediately work to end unilateral measures for a period of 3 to 6 months. this includes an israeli commitment to stop discussion of any new settlem

because, oh, russia already deployed nuclear weapons are to colleen and guard which belongs to russia, but also it's very close to the european union. this is one step. and, and i think that, oh, put in really understands that the of trust in the west towards these intimidation um is falling. so he needs to do the next step and the next step and the next step . and it's very important not to ignore it, but i think it's really, as it was said before, he tries to prevent the west from delivering those weapons. that would really might be a game changer because they would be able to reach russian occupied territory. and even our russian occupied crimea. so do you think this is a distraction because a lot of people are calling it bluff. ah, this is a big word. i wouldn't, i'll say it's a bluff, but on. but i think of the west should. oh, really think well about on the threads and the dangers and ask themselves and discuss what would be worse for the west if of ukraine would be defeated or if there would be, oh, i don't know. 123 percent of really a tactical use of tactical nukes, tactical

push russia back. i don't think that most europeans have an adequate conception, that in these circumstances, a great power like russia will respond with any means at his disposal. i'd like to be, i'd like to leave it as it is that he's clear what i mean. i guess the most europeans are aware of this. absolutely not. and so what the united states, also with china, i mean, it, it says, you know, international politics want to one. i mean, it's the, the, the basic thing that the people study in international affairs class. now can i ask in the last, the very last question because you don't sound very optimistic, but what's your best home for the next couple of years as far as russia, europe and the whole world is concerned. yes, you're right. i know by disposition, an optimist, and the last decade has generally proved me right. but obviously we'll have to do what we can do. so said that even at the world we're trying to bob, we should at least one last tree. so i think we have to reach an understanding. a

and they can really push russia better get ukraine to push russia back for to be. so can you can yes, well out i have the army you? yes. and just trying to sub summarize what some people, i think he missed, they will argue, craig, such an extent, that because russia isn't sending his whole army in, they may push russia back. condensing that most europeans have an adequate conception. that in these circumstances, a great power like russia, will respond with any means at its disposal. i'd like to be, i'd like to leave it as an ad. it is that it's clear what i mean. i guess the most europeans are aware of this. absolutely not. and so with the united states, also with china, i mean, it, it said, you know, international politics want to one. i mean, it's the, the, the basic thing that the people study in international affairs class. now can i ask in the last, the very last question because you don't sound very close to mistake, but what's your best home for the next couple of years as far as russia, europe and the whole world is concerned? yes. all right. i know by disp

there are not only same statements like defeats and russia or women over russia. there are they have forecast saying that russia will not only be defeated, but it will also fall apart. that will collapse and will break apart into several republics. for example, we had george friedman who's the head of the stratford geopolitical intelligence platform. he is the one of those people who is coming out with statements like this, saying that russia will be defeated, no doubt about that. and also. busy able to break up into republics, why is russia breaking up into republics in particular, beneficial to them? i think that is completely logic from their part because if russia will stay, ah, united, if russia will stay independent and sovereign. if russia when russia increases, ah more, it's independence after their victory in ukraine. that war old will be not ruled by the west. so that is the independent, russia with such grow worse off, but to, to consciousness during could put in stime. it is the real obstacle to create the global world on the control of the west. how d

so if russia comes for us, we are open to teacher to, to, to, to russia. a commitment to promote peace and stability and an israeli pledge to stop discussion of further subtle net that's according to a joint communique coming out of a security conference in sharm el sheik between israel and palestine. the government of israel and the palestinian national authority reaffirmed their joint readiness and commitment to immediately work to and you lateral measures for a period of 3 to 6 months. this includes an israeli commitment to stop discussion of any new settlement units performance and to stop authorization of any outpost for 6 months. political analysts, mohammed, now he doesn't believe the new israeli pledges. one inspire any trust that the countries committed to building peace. amid such a houseman, but the defense of those ladies will eliminate the agreements because also it happened and talk about some one month ago on the what 6 of them. but it was but there's a list continued in care of just of those bank. if you knew that killing out of the mission

in russia, that region of the world. and so it's a very dangerous situation when you have this braided, as you put a kind of fanatics in, already seen this havoc, they've wreaked in the middle east. they're attempt to overthrow government after government. so i mean that the american government really has been hijacked by these extremists and it's a threat to humanity at this point. and yeah, it's unbelievable to be provoking china and russia at the same time, at a time when the u. s. economy is weakening and when china and the on these countries are becoming ever more stronger, you know, a pike. he give us the economics of it here. i mean, you've been on the program many times since the started the military operation in ukraine. and i've never really been able to comprehend why europe is willing to go down this path. you know, we have behind closed doors. you know, you have shown to have mccrory, you know, you talk, you have to make tough choices. i think that's what they said. does lensky here? but what about the top c

s. accused china of perhaps planning to send lethal aid to russia. weapons to russia, something that both sides have denied. and what do you make of those accusations by the us? the china was wanting to do that to russian? indeed, this is a fake news. a china russia have a strategic pies and we have a normal trade the other relations. so this is only normal but not the acquisitions made by this it's, i think their acquisition basically to punish the chinese image in one way to consolidate a so called the west. so alliance and her so it, it will not work. and yeah, no, and well, china indeed has tried to position itself as somewhat of a mediator in this conflict between russia and ukraine. and indeed, it came up with this 12 point piece, pun proposal that i think was fair to say receive the rather luke warm reception in the west. and if you are to speculate, do you think there will be me any, any progress towards peace in ukraine? well, i think there is a, perhaps, at this particular moment, a window of opportunity and we should, the sees it is essentially most of parties to the confl

that the west imposed has been very cautious not to take side of russia against russia. and hence we've also seen lots of warnings by the united states, as we also mentioned. isha what kind of sanctions could we be seeing from the u s. uh that has seems to be mobilizing politically in order to already warn everyone that china is possibly at least considering delivering more arms to to russia. what consequences would china face specifically? do we know? well, we don't know exactly what kind of consequences could that be, but in the last couple of years we've already seen a lot of tension in the indo acific region. we've seen us and china constantly being in conflict with each other and i don't think that china would like to escalate that because that's not going to help china in any way china really needs russia and china would want that the war takes a turn, which is all also in china's favor. so i think china's being neutral, china is at least pretending to be neutral, if we may say so. and by presenting these 12 points, china has taken a step further. but there's nothi

but you see they want to subdue. russia did need to defeat russia goods. russia, together with the bricks process, is the block 2 d, i guess, western imperialism and russia, the leading force in that arrangement. so in the defeat, russia, dando, lookin, we can the whole m a non western world. and we are part of the bricks process as part of our claim to national. so there entity to real liberation for our people's own democracies, which are not influenced by western imperialism. so the west is had taken russia precisely to decide to correlate this new force which goes against russia. russia up m a india, china sort of figure to get are we question the majority of the population of the world already? and in terms of could mean fast as he couldn't go. green going to means and the west is not here with that. and right here is a leading force into bricks process it is being picked and maybe just out of curiosity. what is the new development of russia agreeing to extend the black sea green deal for the next 60 days? mean for the african continent. shawnee that should be seen as a positive, rig

so the west is had taken russia precisely to decide, typically this new force which goes against russia, russia up m a, india, china, south africa, to get our, we costs you the majority of the population of the world already. and the temps of could mean fast as he couldn't go green konami's and the west is not here with that . and i have seen the leading force into pretty close as it is being picked, and maybe just out of curiosity. what does the new developments offer? russia agreeing to extend the black sea green deal for the next 60 days, mean for the african continent showing that should be seen as a positive, right? especially considering the impact that this has had on the african continent. that is a positive development ratio is really doing positive things and a very difficult war situation. the russian economy and the fear for tick. and the russian economy needs all the resources entirely for its own sustenance. but even now, we see that extending the hand of the data to the african continent, and that is how russia has always related to the african continent. we are still gra

threat for russia. in the last 12 months, the u. k has become one of ukraine's most ardent support is one of russia's fiercest critics and alongside other nato alliance members has funneled billions of dollars worth of weapons in to ukraine to help with the nation's war effort. and it's here with the u. k. back in 2019, where andrade, kellen was appointed russia's ambassador to the u. k. during that time, he's faced cool to be expelled by the former prime minister of u. k. boys johnson and warren opposition. m pate has accused them of simply being a pirate for vladimir putin regime. andre kellen roches ambassador to the u. k. talks to al jazeera ah andre kellen, russian ambassador to the united kingdom. thank you very much for talking to al jazeera. it's been a year. busy violent bloodshed, tens of thousands of people, possibly killed, possibly millions been forced into exile from ukraine. we're talking about people living in basements about economic instability, also rippling around the world. it's ver

in russia. and china product, an agent as well. as soon as he goes back to charmer, he's going to ball conference, which is again, you cannot make summit, which is going to start from 28. so you will see that the would march this month has been fully packed, and germany is doing a lot of leg work to, to, to prove that it can do a lot of heavy lifting when it comes to security, pays and brokering harmony. i'm like monday countries of consent prior to welcoming the chinese leader at the kremlin president address other multi polar world constituents at the international russia, africa parliamentary conference monday morning. here at the capital. the event is attended by delegations from over 40 african nations and is aimed at strengthening economic and political ties between russia and the continent. during his speech, he said that the black sea grain deal has only benefit those with their plates fall . unless they are in the pool of sibling, we insist on full compliance with key russian requiremen

and russia is not asking for its approval if russia's own responsibility, russia's own decision. but again, i want to bring us back today to the americans because they featured prominently in the ukrainian conflict. and for them it's either you or whether or you are against us. and i wonder if china is neutrality, the way it's been in china, and the way you would describe it in your article would be inevitably proceed as defined by the americans. yes. or the, the united states and the west a particular the u. s. policies. they do not assess or anything in the middle. so as you frame it is a be with us or against us is, has been less than policy towards international politics, major power policy. ever since the end of the cold war. if you recall back to 20 some years ago, i actually this is exact one years ago when the nice to start in bait all about in baby rack. on the pretext of weapons of mass destruction, which is the fake, are the present boost policy is to be with us august. but i, if the world to still remember or the west still remember force powers try to take a differen

. india once more cheap oil from russia and russia happens to be no, indiana's largest army diesel. given this back job, you know, it's, it's, it's sort of hard for india to take of a strong stand as the western nations have. but then this can also be seen as mr. moody's attempts to stop mister putting from closing up to she jump in, you know, the jane as a president. so, you know, it's a very calculated sort of decision that the government of india has taken, given the geopolitical realities of this world in a, given how it's affecting the economies, you know, the food and fish and the oil prices around the world. so it's a difficult one, but up so far, the 2 prime ministers of mr. kachimba and mr. moody haven't mentioned that word. so it'll be interesting to see of you know, how they get around that. but the interesting thing is that, you know, one of the goals matches which is to come to china and its influence in the region . and that sort of pays a small part in this whole dynamics. do not let a bit of a bit deeper into this global strategic partnership between the 2 nations. w

and so russia policy and the document urges other countries, for example, to abandon the answer russia policy want and also to get a greater independence from the united states. and russia for its part is planning to help developing countries, for example, to play a greater role in the global economic affairs who are the roches friends. we're talking about china, india, africa, it's stated in the com and document as well that islamic civilization, it's always seen in russia as friendly and they will continue to work on it. and the key point here, every time that we're talking about a cooperation with another country, it's all about being mutually beneficial. so they are benefits not only russia, but the other country that we're talking about and make sure that this is a multi polar world where the interest not only of the united states and the west are being observed, but also all of these other countries. and so that these other countries play a bigger role and we're not talking about the monopoly or the head to money that we've heard from the west. and it's allies. of course, one of

instead, there are warnings from the us about possible arms deliveries from china to russia, and russia's ally, alexander lucas shinkel personally traveled to china. both sides are unable to find an agreement and our courting non aligned countries like g 20 host india, for example, which has seen a wave of diplomatic efforts, including a visit by german chancellor, will have choice. so on to the point we ask war in ukraine, our new alliances dividing the world with . welcome to this weeks to the point i am javier. yes, it's good to have you with us and i'd like to introduce our guests this week. felix e is a journalist, a long time corresponded in china, and currently works for the specialized german use outlet china table. katya glo, guy is a freelance journalist and russia experts and you shabba is my colleague from dw, joining us today from bar to all 3 of you. thank you very much for being with us today. and i'd like to stop with you. you are talking about the so called war of words that we've seen also in the g 20 foreign ministers meeting that is taking place in india as india is ho

no russia. i'm definitely fascinated both people say, i'm far more interested in what they do and what we had one vote in the united nations condemning russia's attack, which even china abstain only 5 countries voted against it. and so the changes, so that vote was taken and a men nothing. and other votes voices will be heard. but we are in a war. and just like the condemnation of adolf hitler, but to compare them, i didn't mean anything to how the war came out. so on both sides, what noncombatants are saying doesn't really matter. the united states cannot live . and europe can't live with the russian forces directly under border of nato. because that says out of the war and russia cannot live with the united states, 260 miles away from moscow. these are serious people, sadie, serious war. and most of those are offering opinions really don't understand. and just are saying things. your famously wrote the book coming war with japan in 1991 . so for a while, south korea refuse to aid. they just wa

those weapons may be used against russia directly. yes. how topically might russia respond? would that mean having to make greater advances to push further into you create these i thing you have answered your own question, then we have to move of the slain, filled or deeper into your cream, just to avoid a feel the rest of the data today over us it into the data type over the numbers. so by, in this way, western countries of the destroying ukraine itself is china, offering military support. he officially chain that they seeing that it is not a providing us me to support official as i know as far as i know it does not happen, but we have a lot of 3. the shane, of course, are we officially? i don't know. i haven't seen that, and i do not write that to me anything this jaina is saying that it is not supplying us with adams, and we have local information that we are getting kind of sort of china. is there any situation? i'm sure you've been asked this many times before whether russia would consider using nuclear weapons in the battlefield. i have been many times asked about this

russia and couldn't take advantage of western weak. mm. that can sort of happen. what you read off by on a lucy, when russian plain started bombing the area and carrying out their roofless scorched earth policy, he has had lot, a lot of people reacted to this crime in a way that the free syrian army could never have imagined daniel, its army could be if you leave fox, the whole wash have i been? dish syria was russia of it's intervention in ah, why did vladimir putin get involved in this syrian war? and to what extent has this will changed the course of history ah one muscle back many years to understand russia's current intervention in syria. a friendly, historic born links, the 2 countries, ah, peak of machining of insidious times. relations between moscow and damascus were at their peak, but they were disagreement casala, for example, over the problems in palestine and relations with israel figures. and of course the syrians will always eager to get weapons from the soviet union his go. so these will also supplied under fraternal ai

what does it mean for russia and belittles? it means that the bill is almost totally dependent on russia. this is at 1st means that below rules might be even more involved in the war against ukraine. and i think that all saw it might be a demonstration of russia to be not totally depending on china because china i was against the act. i know what does it mean for nato and for the european union bay briefly for later in the european union, i think it means that russia is continuing its nuclear rhetoric, which it has been engaged in since the beginning of its full scale invasion of ukraine last year russia issued a lot of statements and has engaged in actions which have raised the spectre of nuclear weapons use again and again. and i think that is another instance of russia raising the specter of nuclear use in ukraine to intimidate western populations and decision makers. roman dollar deal. how do you see it? what does this mean for ukraine? i think for your crying, there are 2 important points. one is that the danger from bella

now, many usaa line countries used this meeting as an opportunity to simply attack russia to blame russia for the conflict in ukraine to a huge russia of various things that we've seen throughout western media over the past months. however, when russia took to the floor, they pointed out something that many countries i have failed to acknowledge in western media has worked to just simply not mansion. which is that the united states has been withdrawing and getting rid of nuclear agreements. and he went over in detail all the withdrawals of nuclear agreements that we've seen from the united states from there. and he went on to highlight how you asked policy one has been aimed at trying to dictate and control other countries and escalate tensions around the world. here's what we heard from russian ambassador and ben zia zeppelin is one of the camel's western countries are simply trying to impose their own rules on the rest of the world. beneficial only to them in order to then demand this strict compliance from other states. they themselves, of course, do not consider themselves bound by an

and it's possible in russia. well, mr popov, you may or may not be aware that there are more than 16,000 documented cases of ukrainian children being deported, transferred to russia or russian—held territory, occupied territory in ukraine. more than 16,000 documented cases, but many more thousands, which the ukrainians believe have not yet been exposed to the world. now, that contravenes international law and to quote the chief prosecutor of the international criminal court, those children have been used as the spoils of war. now, you are a human being, leave aside your politics. does it not offend you that your country is responsible for using children as the spoils of war? it is not true, of course. and you know we must save the lives of those children. and they are in families, orphanage, and they are safe right now. they are in a safe territory. mr popov, you know as well as i do that many of these children were taken when they still had family. in some cases, parents, in other cases, grandparents, but they

so if russia comes for us, we are open to, to, to, to, to russia. for the top, so is new for this i'll say with us though for an exclusive interview with a recent visit to wash ah ah, with .

the whole western world into war with russia to defend. now french, your deputy terri, mariani has just pointed out that warsaw is now going for in washington in providing fighter jets to ukraine, which washington still at least for now refuses to do the kind of weapons mariani says that can hit deep into russian territory. now clearly a huge risk of major escalation here. yet the polish president says that war sauce make 20 nines will arrive in ukraine within days. and the rest of the wes, just shrubs, i guess, by the way, the people of france. so, you know, the audience that the polish ambassador to paris was addressing on french tv, or certainly not agreed to russia behind poland for a war with russia just because both warsaw and keith had this totally delusional view of themselves as independent and not washington's paid shields. doing its dirty work against russia now germany in france, the economic and military powers of europe have at least tried at times throughout this whole crisis to temper the gung ho washington rhetoric around

that russia has any threat to ukraine. this was in 2016 russia gate was acting up. and at that time, they were these realist views that russia is not a threat to the west. and this entire exercise that people forgot about. now, 30000 troops. you know, russia hasn't forgotten about that. so these people, these kinds of realist thinking and i have to put my crown and shelton that candle, though they're extremely weak, specially shells. they have to win this battle. they have to argue their case by and closed door than we now it's leak to the wall street journal that they've told zelinski he can't when they got a settle. so they started to read this now and when we hear this coming out of realists in the us, if there are any. and i seem to be some least in the pentagon that get biden's here and tell him you cannot do this any further that we got to find a face saving way out of this. because we bit off way too much here and were threatening to sculpture of civilization. so i have to hope that the realistic and in europe as we

. territories and in russia , as well as take effective measures to counter russia's aggression against ukraine maksym butkevich , ukrainian journalist and human rights defender the co-founder of the human rights center zamena and public radio was the coordinator of the project without borders aimed at helping asylum seekers and ukrainian immigrants . on february 24, he joined the ranks of the armed forces of ukraine. he participated in battles in the kyiv region, after which he went to the east. in june, he lost contact with budkevych, and later with a video of maxim's interrogation was released by the russians, according to tetyana pecho pechonchyk , the head of the human rights center. changing the decision of the so-called court can help free maxim , that they are on the lists for the exchange of some of his comrades from the berlingo battalion have already been released. however, not maksym. we hope that after this so-called fake verdict, which has grown up, the so-called supreme court in the so-called dpr will also help and catalyze the exchange processes. and that maksym butkevic

over russia. they are, they have forecast saying that russia will not only be defeated, but it will also fall apart. that will collapse and will break apart into several republics. for example, we had george friedman who's the head of the stratford geopolitical intelligence platform. he is one of those people who is coming out with statements like this, saying that russia will be defeated, no doubt about that. and also able to break up into republics. why is russia breaking up into republics in particular, beneficial to them? i think that is completely logic from their part because if russia will stay, ah, united, if russia will stay independent and sovereign. if russia, when russia increases, ah, more, its independence after their victory in ukraine, that war old will be not ruled by the west. so that is the independent, russia, with such, gro was off, but to, to consciousness during, could put in stime. it is the real obstacle to create the global world on the control of the west. how do you see