[cheers and applause] bernie sanders: and we are going bernie sanders: i want to tell you a brief story, a brief story about what i mean when i talk about a rigged economy, a corrupt campaign finance system, and a broken criminal justice system. i want you to hear this. last month, goldman sachs, one of the large -- [crowd booing] bernie sanders: you know goldman sachs, ok. last month, goldman sachs paid the federal government a settlement fine of $5 billion. they paid that fine because they were selling worthless packages of subprime mortgage loans. paid a $5 billion fine. now all of you know that eight years ago, this country was plunged into the worst economic downturn since the great depression. as a result of wall street greed and illegal behavior, we lost millions of jobs. people lost their life savings. people lost their homes. that took place because of the greed and illegal behavior on wall street. today, this is the broken criminal justice system. today, some person in arizona or vermont gets picked up with a small amount of marijuana. that person has a police record for the r

for bernie sanders. if you look at the map statewide, bernie sanders is running it up in most of the state. a lot of these counties are very small. it's not a big margin. look how close this is. this has been a fight for blue collar voters, the debate over the auto industry. oakland koutcounty, this is aut country. >> most of the county is in. >> belong blue collar voters, this is where flint is, hillary clinton was ahead by a larger margin early, only a little more of a quarter of the vote there. this is a hand-to-hand combat here. we just did oakland a moment ago. you comb to mccomb county, hillary clinton was leading, bernie sanders by small percentages has caught up, home of the so-called reagan democrats, areas where you have the auto industry, general dynamics and the like. 23% in the light, this is literally hand-to-hand combat, rock 'em sock 'em robots. you see her lead jumped up a little bit here. even if hillary clinton keeps it running up here, i suspect, my friend, we'll be counting for a whi

if bernie sanders in june 2016 could talk and bernie sanders in june 2015, bernie sanders a year ago would say, what i would really like to doed is have a spirited contest and really push a message. bernie is about mission more than ambition. and he would say, i guarantee, a year ago he would say, i really want to get this country and this party focussed on income inequality, on the way this wall street is hurting main street. global warming is threatening the entire planet, and the way we need to lift up the minimum wage, not just to 12, but even 15 which is the highest by far we would ever have. he's won all of that. >> thank you. >> he's won. he's noft going to be the nominee, it's losing -- >> i know you know. >> accomplished what he set out to do. >> more. >> not just policy, it's more than that, it's process. and this is where despite being different on issues, trump supporters and sanders supporters felt that we're fighting a common battle rising up against wall street, we're rising up against washington and we have felt that the process has been unfair. a lot of times we've h

[cheers and applause] bernie sanders: let me say this. i know that in our country, not everybody agrees with my views on immigration reform. we are a democracy. people have different points of view. what is not acceptable manner what your point of view is is to throw racist attacks against mexicans -- [cheers and applause] bernie sanders: the reason donald trump will never be elected president is the american people will not accept insults to mexicans, muslims, or women. [cheers and applause] bernie sanders: the american people will not accept a president who insults our veterans. [cheers and applause] bernie sanders: or who several years ago led the so-called birther effort which was an ugly, ugly attempt to undermine the legitimacy of the presidency of barack obama. [cheers and applause] bernie sanders: and now, you can agree with the president, you can disagree, that is democracy but do not tell me he is not the legitimate president of this country. [cheers and applause] bernie sanders: and when we talk about racism in america, and i a

a surprise upset for bernie sanders. millions across the country cast their ballot on super tuesday. we're breaking down the big winners and losers. welcome back, i'm christine romans. >> i'm john bermen. 31 minutes past the hour. breaking overnight, wow, this was simply stunning. bernie sanders with an upset victory in michigan. such an unexpected result there. the sanders campaign didn't expect it. the clinton campaign didn't expect it. the polls did show it was going to happen. hillary clinton did win in mississippi by a huge margin. what does that mean? that hillary clinton won more delegates on this super tuesday. you're looking at the total delegates that includes sup superdelega superdelegates. on the republican side, donald trump had three strong wins, michigan, mississippi, high he. ted cruz won in idaho. an awful night for marco rubio. he didn't win any of the states. he picked up no delegates for sure in michigan, mississippi or idaho still waiting on hawaii. it's maximum one or two delegates. an awful night.

what bernie sanders has done, bernie sanders made hillary clinton a much better candidate. when she started this race she was making misstepped she shouldn't have made. now she is connecting with voters, actually talking and having emotion. so bernie sanders has lifted this race up. >> i know you are a clinton supporter but don't thank him for making her better too close. the votes are close. we're going to take a quick break. numbers are coming in from the nevada democratic caucuses and it shows it is a squeaker of a race. stay with us. ♪ to thrive under pressure. ♪ to reject the status quo. and they have no problem passing the competition. the aggressive new 2016 lexus gs 350 and 200 turbo. once driven, there's no going back. every day women around the world spend millions of hours just collecting the water they need for their families. each limited edition stella artois chalice helps provide five years of clean water for someone in the developing world. this is not a job for me, thbeing a part of helping thpeople in need is who i am. working at brookdale for me is no

we just heard from bernie sanders. whatever the final number is, this is still considered a big win for him tonight. >> reporter: yeah, that's right. i mean, the sanders campaign feels like this gives them a lot of momentum going into these series of contests coming up here in a week, wolf. he's really looking toward ohio, even before seeing his showing tonight, his campaign felt that his message attacking hillary clinton for her past support of some -- even before seeing how it played here in michigan. that's certainly we should watch going into the next week here. i want to talk about some of the polling. the sanders campaign on friday did their final internal polling. they found that hillary clinton was up by what i was told by one aide was high single digits. that was on friday. they didn't bother polling over the weekend because they found it really difficult to get ahold of young people, which are so key to his sort of black -- his numbers did not reflect his support of minority voters. >> ohio, one of the big co

so today bernie sanders right now we've allocated 26 delegates to bernie sanders, zero to hillary clinton. now, she is above threshold. she has more than 15% in the vote totals in both washington and alaska so she will likely get delegates but right now we're able to allocate 26 delegates to bernie sanders today. that brings us to the total delegates to date and this is where you see hillary clinton's big lead 1,711 delegates to bernie sanders' 978 delegates. that includes the superdelegates. if you break it out and you look at just pledge delegates, you see that it is 1,229 pledge delegates for hillary clinton, 482 superdelegates to bernie sanders' 951 pledge delegates and he has 27 superdelegates. rack them all together 1,711 to 978 is the total delegates to date. >> we said at the beginning of the day he needed some landslide victories because of the proportional allocation in these democratic contests. he did. certainly in alaska and possibly in washington state as well. >> yeah. these margins hold whenever vote the counted, he'll make a significant chunk up in his delegate deficit. t

madison is going to be key for bernie sanders. green bay. this is where bernie sanders was today. he knows his key here, run it up in the college towns, run it up in the rural areas. try to offset -- i think 80% of this vote will be white in wisconsin. it's a good battleground for both partieparties. >> there's a report in the "washington post" today that just broke where bernie sanders is now going to talk about contesting new york, hillary clinton's home state of new york, talking about wall street, talking about fracking. trying to score a huge victory in a state that she should be taking for granted as her own. >> it's on april 19th. we've heard john king say tonight she needs to deliver in wisconsin on april 5th. guess who is in agreement actually with some people who said bernie has a shot yes, ma'am -- the clinton campaign. wisconsin probably favors bernie sanders. they're setting up this expectation so they don't end up with a michigan upset like we saw, that she could lose there. >> in wisconsin? >> in wisconsin. now, if she does lose there, it is possible that she could

bernie sanders will cut into this. they are saying even in the coming days and the next couple weeks, maybe he cuts into her lead but then they expect, this is their expectation, she will still be at 200-plus delegates. the point they will make ever since she got past this line, this is more than barack obama ever led her in 2008. i think we'll hear a lot of that. >> also more than barack obama, bernie sanders is overperforming barack obama in the states right now. if these numbers hold for him, he will have performed better than barack obama. these were barack obama stronghold states in 2008. so he will be able to top that. i'll tell you one thing looking at my inbox, jake. bernie sanders campaign will not be the only ones fundraising. shortly after the projection for alaska, i got a fundraising appeal from the clinton campaign, quick update on bernie sanders. we think he's going to do very well today in the washington, alaska and hawaii caucus. please chip in. though he will be able to raise money off of this, they a

she's at bernie sanders headquarters in new hampshire. >> i'm here at the bernie sanders crowd in new hampshire, i step away for a second. this is about the most jubilant project we can imagine. we were told that bernie sanders would be out here at the top of the hour at 9 o'clock. his crowd is filing in, coming through the secret service protectioning an indication that bernie sanders is somebody in this race. he's a serious challenger. he warrants secret service protection. that happened after the iowa caucuses. what happened next, we talked about nevada, and south carolina. i want to get off script a little bit. i have been in new hampshire the last knew days, and there was a democratic group allied with the hillary clinton campaign. i went to a marco rubio event the other day. they weren't going after anyone but marco rubio. it's american bridge, funded by george soros, david brock plays a role in that. he's a long-time clinton operative behind media matters. they are following marco rubio around, picking up on the robot mem that began after the debate. why? the hillary clinton ca

this is what people are tweetig all about bernie sanders and they're such rabid bernie sanders fans because he's got this passion to take it to the billionaires. >> yeah, i just -- you know, ax, you and i have had this debate before about whether bernie needs to start taking hillary on a little more decisively, and i just don't understand. hillary has through herself and surrogates at one time or another on the campaign trail, you know, she had joaquin castro saying he doesn't care about the hispanic community. she kind of alleged that he was sexist for saying she was shouting about guns. she had chelsea talking about how he wanted to dismantle health care, which i know you thought was the wrong tone. between the racism and the sexism and the -- he's a gun toter and he hates medicare, between all of that -- >> but she means it in a nice way. >> don't you think bernie sanders needs to say enough with this, have you no sense of decency -- >> hillary clinton is blessed with an opponent who doesn't want to go full throttle -- >> that's his appeal. >> -- against her. and that is part of

so when bernie sanders is expressing and touting the enthusiasm he sees in his crowds, when bernie sanders says he does a better job defeating -- not just donald trump but frankly, any of the republican potential nominees, than hillary clinton, our poll matches that. those are his strong suits right now. a lot of that looking inside the numbers is coming from the help of independent voters. you were talking about what are the makeup of voters. bernie sanders does really well with independent voters. across all th states that have voted so far that we have exit polls for, he beats her among independents like 61% to 38%. in this poll here, currently in the national poll, among democrats looking at how independent voters sided, he beats her by 4 points among independents. that has been part of his success. two of the contests today are open contests, independents can vote. one of them, alaska, is a closed contest. >> hillary clinton's camp used to say i think early on in the primary season, say look at these you enthusiasm numbers, okay but dismiss them. say a lot of people don't know who ber

[cheers and applause] bernie sanders: i am a member of the u.s. senate committee on the environment. [cheers and applause] bernie sanders: and i have talked to scientists all over the world. the debate is over, climate change is real. [cheers and applause] bernie sanders: it is caused by human activity. together, we are going to break our dependence on fossil fuels. [cheers and applause] bernie sanders: and transform our energy system into sustainable energy, and energy efficiency. [cheers and applause] bernie sanders: i have been criticized for saying this, so let me say it again. [cheers and applause] bernie sanders: i believe that health care is a right for all people. [cheers and applause] bernie sanders: i believe there is something wrong when every other major country on earth provides health care as a right, and we do not. today, -- [crowd chanting "bernie!"] bernie sanders: the affordable care act -- it is done a lot of good. but we need to do more. today, 29 million people have no health insurance, and even more are underinsured. today, w

bernie sanders is the early leader. clinton made it clear she's planning for an expected general election fight with donald trump. listen to what she said in kentucky. >> so i got to tell you, i am, if so fortunate enough to be the nominee, i'm looking forward to debating donald trump come the fall. [ cheers ] >> and you know, finally, finally, we've got to unify america. i mean, a house divided against itself as abraham lincoln said cannot stand. we can't be scapegoating and finger pointing and blaming and demeaning and degrading and insulting our fellow americans. >> hillary clinton a short time ago. let's go back to the panel. that idea of a loose cannon, which is the term she kept using against department last week, is that what you see? >> there are -- >> your strategy now. >> this notion here from >>> go back to the mitt romney speech attacking duonald trump which is a target rich zone. these questions of temperament and judgment. >> i like the conman better. the idea that he is a weapon that's going fo go in d.c.

we will be here as you saw bernie sanders briefly in the vip box. back to the floor. >> -- great united states senators and senator bob menendez and our cory booker. i stand before you with our congressional delegation and others. again, a state that is as diverse as they come in america, to tell you we are the state that started the revolution and we want to be the state to continue the revolution again. we proudly cast our votes for the great senator of vermont, 45 votes for senator sanders and for the next president of the united states of america, the first female and history will be made, 95 votes for hillary clinton. >> new jersey basically climp g i clinching the nomination. after new mexico comes new york. you might expect new york getting pride of place. hillary clinton represented new york as a senator. it will be interesting to see whether they pass their turn and go later in the roll call or after new mexico here, if new york goes right in alphabetical line. >> our state has two great national labs which spin ideas from the lab bench to

en bernie sanders. that bird was a symbol for bernie sanders subpoena a swe. have a sweet, sweet, sweet saturday. >> bill, you take issue? >> didn't you recognize the holy spirit jie mean, you know -- whoa. this is easter weekend when the holy spirit descends on bernie sanders. watch out. watch out. >> and the holy spirit, the last time i checked, will not take sides in any political contest it. >> so does this mean ba kthat t clinton campaign will be carting in birds? just land on the podium! >> oh -- >> well, i do think that today is going to be an amazing day for bernie sanders. if we have surprises, any intervention whatsoever and hillary clinton actually wins a state, the biggest surprise of the day. the fact of the matter is hillary clinton remains 300 delegates in front of bernie sanders. she actually has the vote lead, the actual raw vote lead by over 2.5 million. important as well. when you lead this western saturday, bernie sanders still has to prove he can win in diverse states like a maryland, a pennsylvania a new york, california. and he has to wi

bernie sanders. this is a place where his message plays very well. keep in mind this is the home of the minimum wage debate, this is the home of marijuana legalization, so this is a place where his message plays very well. now, here at the caucus, really a three sort of phased caucus. you come in, there's an initial vote. then folks have three minutes to talk where they try to sway the undecided votes into their camp or to try to switch people from hillary clinton to bernie sanders and vice versa. and then there's that final vote. and those are the results that we're waiting for now. i have to tell you a pretty informed group of people, it takes some courage certainly to stand up in front of your friends and neighbors and that's exactly what you do here at the caucus. you're talking to people in your neighborhood trying to persuade them one candidate or the other. so we saw a lot of informed debate happening in the caucus. ari. >> and briefly, cal, one of the things we saw last night was 15,000 peopl

bernie sanders is the opposite. it is not that he either listens to the democratic establishment or dictates to them. they don't fear them. the candidate they preferred is winning, is going to win. there is no debt on either side of the negotiations and he doesn't fear them. that is the issue. and why would he? what is he going to do? >> at the end of the day, will he say to the supporters, we are part of the democratic party, our home is the democratic party, we must make the democratic party more welcoming to us and more to our liking, but this is where we live. does he say that at the end of the day? that, i think, absolutely, after nevada and after the fight that happened over nevada today, is a hugely open question. >> i think if she loses, we'll look back at this period, these couple of weeks when the most damage was inflicted upon her. week after week of humiliating loss and the commentary about how bernie sanders doesn't care about the democratic party, well, listen to trump echo every nasty thing bernie san

bernie sanders, breaks for bernie sanders there. and young people, no surprise there. he won independents by a pretty wide margin there, too. it's interesting because hillary clinton, when asked the top quality for their candidate was the right experience, they think hillary clinton is experienced. what do you make of what the exit polls are telling us about the division here between clinton and sanders. >> it's a lot of what we've been seeing. once again she wins on electability. she wins on being ready for the jo job day one, but he's more exciting to people, and bringing out young people. we've been repeating it because it's important, but the demographics in wisconsin favored bernie sanders. hillary clinton outperformed her last go-around in wisconsin tonight. it's not a great state for her. it's predominantly white. she does much better among minorities than bernie sanders. we've seen over and over now in this campaign that hillary clinton wins a few and pivots to the general election. we write how the bernie sanders campaign has been put to bed, then he comes bac

bernie sanders 24.3%. she has 131,320 votes right now. bernie sanders only 42,517. i want to go over to jonhn king. a lot of people were expecting an impressive win for hillary clinton tonight in south carolina. but 50 points, that is huge. remember, barack obama carried the state eight years ago against hillary clinton by 28 points. >> this is not a victory. it's a thrashing. and it's a message. this is the democratic base for the first time in the state. the majority african-american vote. and hillary clinton is sending a message to bernie sanders and to the country essentially say rg you a protest candidate or can you compete? tonight she's sending a clear message. look at the map filling in. you notice anything? there's no bernie sanders. he's not even winning a county in the state. if we go back in time, hillary clinton lost in a three way race with john edwards. as you go into these counties, clinton getting 20% here, clinton getting 20% here, clinton getting 17% here. obama had a clear victory in the swath where you have the highest american percentage. i cou

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there are bernie sanders' supporters on either side of this gymnasium here, holding up bernie sanders signs, holding out hope that he will not endorse. i talked to about ten bernie sanders supporters this morning. he said he's not going to endorse today, they don't believe it. he is indeed going to endorse. the reality here is we're 35 days after the last primaries where hillary clinton clinched the nomination. most of his supporters have come on board. both campaigns believe most will. some may not. at this point, it matters less and less baurz donald trump is unifying this party much more so than hillary clinton is, much more so than bernie sanders is. not surprisingly donald trump is trying to get in on the act here. he tweeted this morning, sort of razzing and jabbing bernie sanders supporters. he's saying he's essentially selling out his supporters here. when bernie sanders takes the stage this morning and embraces hillary clinton, this will be the moment that hillary clinton has been waiting for for so long. it reminds me of eight years ago in unity, new hampshire, when barack o

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bernie sanders voted against the iraq war. he understands the cost of war; that that cost is continued when our veterans come home. bernie sanders will defend our country and take the trillions of dollars spent on these interventionist regime change unnecessary wars and invest it here at home. >> that's the argument from a very credible val dater on those military issues and in a week and time period where there's a big debate about how we deal with terrorism and donald trump saying less nato against the back drop of a republican race increasingly in the gutter and not about issues. >> you know, i think that also speaks to the power of the movement that has come from this. and again, as i was saying, as a continuum. i mean, we've always had an anti-war movement. that's why the vote in iraq war is so relevant. people are still realing from that war. and so, as long as you have that sentiment out there, someone like bernie sanders can not be hawkish, can be more dovish, as the bird seemed to suggest. people are saying the bird c

people feeling this election was stolen from bernie sanders. they gave a particularly nasty reception to debbie wasserman-schultz when she appeared in public for the first time. take a listen. >> we have so much to do, and we have to make sure we notch forward together in a unified way. we know that the voices in this room that are standing up and being disruptive. we know that that's not the florida that we know. reporter: that's the same kind of reception hillary clinton delegates are getting outside the wells far doug -- the wells. wells fargo center. they are not happy with it. listen to what they said to bernie. >> we have got to elect hillary clinton and tim kaine. [c[crowd booing] reporter: i talked to a number of people in this crowd that said yes we booed bernie, we booed him because we love him. we know that he had the election stolen from him, and we still support him and we are still with him and we don't want to be supporting hillary clinton and we are not going to vote for hillary clinton, we don't care what he says. i have never

and, look, that's why bernie sanders -- bernie sanders knows what's coming. not just in the meeting he's going to have with the president tomorrow but maybe, more importantly, or as importantly in the meeting that he will have with the senate democratic leader harry reid whom he has worked with for decades now and knows very well. maybe that could be a more candid conversation. but at the end of the day, to mark's point, it's the question of what do you need? what can we do? how can we help you so that you get behind hillary clinton and, more importantly, much more importantly, get your supporters actively vocally say to your supporters, get behind her in a way that he seems pretty reluctant to do last night and especially after hillary clinton clearly got not just the superdelegates but the pledged delegates. >> do you think he stands a chance to become her running mate at all? i want to get to the sound bite -- >> look, he's 74 years old. they have had a tough time and at the end of the day i think it's highly unlikely. >> here is hillary clinton speaking t

the question is what does bernie sanders do? of course, we saw eight years ago, hillary clinton being magnanimous when she conceded to barack obama and listen, we had separate paths and now we merge. she spoke like a true party person and the big question about bernie sanders is whether or not he has the dna with him and he doesn't because he essentially joined the democratic party and people are looking to send him signals, but as david said they have to be careful and they don't want to alienate bernie sanders and they don't want to alienate his supporters and they have work to do. bernie sanders and his supporters believe this has been a rigged process. that is something that his supporters have said and what is the new narrative of these parties. they want to say new jersey put us over the top and then as we move west they will roll out more superdelegates and she's the presumptive nominee and then they want top win new mexico and say that's a swing state and has the latino population and she's proven again that she wins and

even if bernie sanders were to win them all. is it realistic to win california by 70%, new jersey by 70%? i don't think that is realistic but the goal in the sanders campaign is get as close as you can, narrow the pledged delegate gap and try to convince the super delegates to switch. >> among the democrats all states are proportional. they divided up proportionally. >> congressional district in heavy minority communities, bonus delegates. when you see the results coming in, in new jersey, eight not exact but roughly you see the percentage clinton/sanders that's ball park for the delegates. we start counting in new jersey new jersey. yesterday we thought new jersey would put her over the top and the super delegates putting her over the top. we'll know as the results come in is senator sanders in any way to pull off the miracle math meaning a sweep of all six states. we'll know that soon after the polls close. >> 2008 in california hillary clinton did back eight years ago. >> it's a great thing to look back at. california was not

bernie sanders taking oregon. the headline is all about bernie sanders defiant statement last night in the question of whether the democratic party will be able to unite for the general election. just moments ago on this show we heard from jeff weaver, the sanders campaign manager. he struck a more conciliatory tone stressing that the dispute between the democratic party and sanders campaign was more personal between democratic national chair debbie wasserman schultz and their campaign and state of nevada. and the sanders campaign stressing that bernie sanders would be behind hillary clinton and opposed to donald trump in the general election. donald trump this morning all over twitter trying to coax bernie sanders supporters to his side saying the democratic process rigged against sanders saying sanders voters basically should give him a look. let's talk about what we heard from bernie sanders and what we heard from the two campaigns with our panel. we have with us jeff greenfield, contributor with politico. jeff

bernie sanders talking about $15 aborigine hour. when you are talking about the economic issues and the economic injustice that a lot of african-americans feel, they're feeling injustice on a social and economic level. it becomes complicated. why wouldn't more of them support bernie sanders. part of it is there just doesn't exist a personal connection. bernie sanders has tried on several occasions to connections in the black community. he has come down here to south carolina and other places. he is getting big rallies and turn out. in austin today he had 10,000 people but he has not had enough time in the game with african american community. they don't know who bernie sanders really is >>> absolutely. i think that could be one of the flaws of this campaign strategy that many punnedits are saying, is that he is going after that young vote and all too often the young voters they don't always turn out to the polls. >> that's correct. by the way, i think you will see as we cross-tabulate the results tonight, at least the initial pollin

bernie sanders had more than 30%. m.j., you've been doing some reporting on the clinton campaign, sort of the autopsy. michigan has only been over for a few hours, but they're trying to figure out what they did wrong. >> i think the bottom line is, campaigning hard matters. even in a state where the clinton campaign thought that they would do well, we saw signs that they were not campaigning as aggressive as they had in nevada or south carolina, for example. those count when people go to the polling stations. clinton only campaigned in places like detroit and flint, and neglected the other parts of the state. that's something the clinton campaign thinks could have hurt her. the clinton campaign now believes that perhaps the former secretary of state started focus on the general election a little too much. she didn't remain focused on many of the democratic nominations. and you could tell in her tone she was aiming her rhetoric at donald trump. often not naming him but it's clear who she was talking about, and letting

bernie sanders speaks later on tonight. you could see something similar happen again. >> well, you could. and listen, that is part of the calculation here of why debbie wasserman schultz is not gaveling in this convention, because what happened to her this morning at the florida delegation. remember, that's her home state delegation. she stood in front of that group of delegates and she was essentially booed off the stage. she was trying to talk over them and they were booing and jeering, holding up signs saying things about the dnc e-mails. this is a big problem for this party. they say they want to , but they a split, and for all the talk about how not unified the republicans were last week saying that, they have their own trouble in their own backyard. >> we may get end case of future trouble in the next few minutes when there are volts taken on credentials and a rules package. that could give the bernie sanders supporters an opportunity to make their voice heard in the early going of to convention. that could happen in

bernie sanders has an edge there. again, no objection at all and i agree with you that when this primary season is over. that the democrats can unite and i think they will. in the ways know that bernie sanders has shifted the debate to more of a progressive position than otherwise would have happened. it has been a populist position. so this does strengthen our party because it makes people who are not partisan democrats say, well. they are now. to danaw do you respond milbank's piece in the washington post recently, his column -- democrats would be insane to nominate bernie sanders. in this, he argues that republicans will have the dictionary on their side. they will portray senator sanders as one who wants the government to own and control major industries and a means of production. they will say he wants to take away private property. it wouldn't be fair but it would be easy. socialists don't win national elections in the united states. bernie sanders is a socialist in the same sense that franklin and eleanor roose

we know -- bernie sanders campaign. does it change anything for bernie sanders. . >> we are waiting for the answer. there's a thought he'll take it over. the reality is that we are a candidate 41 points behind, a new months ago, running against almost an incumbent. someone with almost 100% name i.d. here we are on election night, we are ahead in the number of delegates we have won at this point. it's exciting to be here, we feel it's a huge victory, no matter what happens here on out. >> what do you think about the ivory tower, whether it's trump, cruz or bernie sanders supporters. it's a political establishment. is that a view you share, a repudiation of the political establishment. >> what we are trying to do here is change the establishment. we are trying to make sure that we take it over so we have it for the people, run by the people. that's what we want to do. we want to change out the establishment, making it so we have an establishment working for all working americans, instead of just working class. >> charles,

this is what people are tweeting all about bernie sanders and they're such rabid bernie sanders fans because he's got this passion to take it to the billionaires. >> yeah, i just -- you know, ax, you and i have had this debate before about whether bernie needs to start taking hillary on a little more decisively, and i just don't understand. hillary has through herself and surrogates at one time or another on the campaign trail, you know, she had joaquin castro saying he doesn't care about the hispanic community. she kind of alleged that he was sexist for saying she was shouting about guns. she had chelsea talking about how he wanted to dismantle health care, which i know you thought was the wrong tone. between the racism and the sexism and the -- he's a gun toter and he hates medicare, between all of that -- >> but she means it in a nice way. >> don't you think bernie sanders needs to say enough with this, have you no sense of decency -- >> hillary clinton is blessed with an opponent who doesn't want to go full throttle -- >> that's his appeal. >> -- against her. and that is part of

this could get bigger for bernie sanders. but right now from the city of detroit, can hillary clinton expand that margin that she's getting in wayne county and as she expands it -- it's still not updated. as she expands that are there enough areas left in the rest of the state for bernie sanders to offset it. we have a real barn burner here in michigan. >> because this is an all hands situation, i'm going to ask chuck todd to come here and join us at the desk. we're here with lawrence and eugene. what do you make of this? >> this would be a big deal for bernie sanders if he can win. >> it's a big deal if he loses and it's a big deal if he wins. >> with these numbers, i went to the university of michigan and i kind of know the state, it's really hard to tell who is going to win this because -- she's going to get those votes. i think there's more to come in kent and that's going to be mostly bernie sanders. it's going to be very -- my old friend dan rather would say it's tight as a tick. >> this is happening in the real america

i spoke to an aide to bernie sanders who said john lewis is a great american hero that bernie sanders respects. that just goes to show you you don't push back against an icon like john lewis, but we've heard supporters of bernie sanders trying to back him up here saying, look, he was an activist, he was arrested. he's out with an ad starring erica garner, who are the daughter of eric garner who died in manhattan after a police officer had him in a chokehold. she says she wants to support bernie sanders because he's a protester and is going to stand up for criminal justice reform. erica's mother has endorsed hillary clinton. clinton is going to try to focus on some issues that she thinks are going to resonate with black voters, hispanic voters. immigration, crime for instance, and also key, they're trying to paint bernie sanders as an opponent of president obama and hillary clinton as his heir apparent. >> thank you. michael nutter, the former mayor of philadelphia and our other panelists. let me start with you. congressman lewis, that was a big statement. it was a pretty damning state

and with bernie sanders comments, there is unity. the entire place on it feet cherishing this moment. i'm here with lou dobbs to talk about this. >> monday is dead and gone as the wells fargo center arena and tuesday is here and her nomination is now official. it is an extraordinary journey she traveled in just the past week let alone over the course since 2008. maria: yet a lot of people talking about the platform being the most progressive. what will the platform look like should she win the presidency. what will the platform look like this is a euphemism for left wing. we haven't seen anything near this since fdr. that impact will prove to be positive deleterious to the hopes to win the white house. it's almost twice as liberal as it was 20 years ago. that platform is quite a document. and yet the campaign just until this week was favoring that. there is a broad in the party. regardless of the partnership. we are talking about the highest number of independence. they are going to have to reach out to those independence. to win the

ohio was a tough loss for bernie sanders. they spent a lot of money. >> they did actually across the five states they outspend her 12 million to 7 million. they put $4 million down last friday for the final three days of the campaign across the states. this is a bitter result for bernie sanders. he didn't expect to come away empty handed tonight. >> for those clinton supporters who wish bernie sanders would drop out, there is an argument to be made that it makes her a better candidate the longer he stays in, it also continues there being a battle on the democrat side. >> the idea that a contested primary is damaging for the general election is not historically borne out. when you get to this point in a primary the grooves are cut pretty deep and bernie sanders has faced the same issues he has faced all during the race. he isn't just college whites and young people, but he's losing two-thirds or more of african-americans in the midwest and 80% in the south and tonight she crushed him everywhere. it is hard to win your party's

bernie sanders said that to chuck todd on "meet the press." you know him better than anyone, being part of the delegation, being a virginian, tell us why you think tim kaine is progressive and should not be criticized to fellow democrats. >> if you're talking about progressive, you have to compare them not to the almighty you been but the alternative as they say. i think compared to the alternative, he is more progressive on his worst day than the trump-pence ticket could be on the best day. i think if you look at his record, he's clearly a friend of the underserved and privileged. so he's the civil rights lawyer backed by trade. he is spent time of his law school in honduras fighting poverty i think his views will be well received in the democratic party when they get to know him. >> what about this e-mail controversy? because bernie sanders has a legitimate complaint that as he has been saying all along, the party, the party's structure was tipping it in favor of hillary clinton. >> well, i think the e-mails unfortunate and they have distrac

also among independents breaking for bernie sanders, young people breaking for bernie sanders. how does hillary clinton appeal to that without changing who she is as a candidate? >> i think you've hit on it is that hillary clinton can't change who she is because she's such a known entity. she was a free trader and she pushed the trade deals. voters who are very into the trade issue don't buy that and because of hillary clinton's problems with trust worthiness they doubt her position on trade. she's really stuck on that one. for donald trump it's a different situation because he's for free trade and pro-fair trade so it's like he prefers chocolate and van ilnilla. so donald trump has got the free traders and fair traders and not explaining how he plans to do that at all. >> policy and donald trump, maybe it will come up in thursday night's debate. >> coming up, hillary clinton went big against bernie sanders on the auto bailout. did that backfire on her in michigan. we have more next. at mfs investment management, we believe in the power of active management. by debating our res

bernie sanders: you know, i did that. in vermont, as many know, i defeated democrats and republicans to become mayor, defeated democrats and republicans to make it into the congress. recent years, democrats have been more sympathetic. and i've been a member of the democratic caucus for 25 years. so right now i would not have accepted the position of leadership if i was not serious about fundamentally reforming the democratic party. so that's where my head is right now. [applause] amy goodman: thank you. bernie, the last question is, sen. bernie sanders: this is your fourth last question! amy gogoodman: for people who ae feeleling deeply disiscouraged t now, what did you learn from your campaign this time around? where you almost won. sen. bernie sanders: let me just say this, and the feeling of, i wouldn't use the word "discouragement." the feeling of maybe frustration, depression, all of which is valid, but here's what i hope that everybody remembers. anybody who knows anything about american history, you know, think abo

sanders, bernie sanders supporters, well, bernie sanders spoke to his supporters earlier today and he talked about the idea of party unity, talked the idea of supporting hillary clinton, and he got booed. that's something that's on a lot of people's minds right now, looking forward to tonight and his speech. kasie hunt is down there with a sanders supporter who was at that meeting today. kasie, what do you have? >> hi, steve. this is the california delegation which is one of the larger delegations here in this hall. obviously many supporters. yes, hillary clinton supporters but also sanders folks. we found one of them who was at that event yesterday. sanders spoke to all of his delegates, about 1900 of them. this is alexis edelstein and you booed, why? >> yes. we think bernie is still the candidate to win. we don't want trump any more than anyone else wants trump. it's up to the superdelegates to make that decision. in the polls hillary is losing. that's why superdelegates come into play in the first place this. we don't want trump to win. so if we support hillary, we believe trump wi

bernie sanders is not. not only that there is the fact that bernie sanders's views are exotic in the use of many, including many democrats. if you think about this, one. jobs of a political party is to nominate and elect candidates martha: that is a good point. >> obviously they want somebody who can be elected. there is a widespread sense among democrats d others that bernie sanders couldn't possibly be elected even if he were to get the nomination. so they favor hillary. it isn't attractive they would try to use his religion against him which never happened. there we are. i have to say i have a little bit of sympathy for debbie wasserman-schultz who appears to have done exactly what the clinton camp and party wanted. martha: it fuels the fire of bernie sanders supporters who wanted him to be the democratic nominee. >> it is also the case, martha, democratic party needs bernie sanders to get elected. barack obama could win over people for variety of reasons. hillary clinton doesn't have the advantage. she

bernie sanders is at 11%. that is a big gaping difference. that explains why the clinton campaign is looking past iowa and new hampshire. two of the whitest states in the country. >> exactly. that is the hillary clinton campaign argument. iowa and new hampshire are set upper effe perfectly for sander. the clinton campaign has advantages everywhere else because the democratic electricorate. sanders argument last night was everyone else will like me when i win. he is seeing iowa and new hampshire to change everywhere. that's the worry if you are hillary clinton at this point. that iowa could snowball. the clinton campaign is not giving up on iowa. she will spend three days there this week. she definitely is looking to set up an if iowa and new hampshire go badly, what next scenario. she can lean on a stronger minority population in other states to help her out. >> eric bradner in south carolina for us. very early or very late for you. thanks so much. talk to you in a bit. >> the winner of the debate are the drapes behind eric bradner. >> a litt

and i think that image essentially says bernie sanders is a player, bernie sanders has arrived in many ways, and we know this was a meeting that will eventually lead to him being eased out of this race, but, my goodness, they are giving him every courtesy and every image and every platform that he could want at this point. >> that's bigger than that quick shot that you can get of him walking into -- bernie sanders walking into the white house solo. this is very different. >> this wasn't any shot. that was more than just any picture. matt, your thoughts? i wonder if this is the friendliest part of the conversation or the friendliest part of the meeting that will perhaps happen, the public part, and if behind closed doors it might be different. >> the question is what comes next once they enter this meeting, how tense is the meeting, how strongly does president obama urge bernie sanders to think about getting out of the race and trying to unify the party? also what's next for bernie sanders? he has had an amazing campaign, far stronger than anybody expected him to have and what does he d

bernie sanders will get five or six. she will add to her 200 delegate margin by about 20 by the time all of the votes are counted tonight. hillary clinton will gain in terms of her path to the nomination even though michigan is a huge setback because the sanders campaign is arguing for democrats to win in november they have to get those votes in the states of michigan. until she can do that there's not the same sense of inevitability about her nomination. this has been a big night on the republic side for donald trump. he has won 14 states in the nomination contest and number 13 tonight is michigan. donald trump won 36 to 24. this was a double digit margin. much wider than people had participated. it underscores the donald trump that agrees with bernie sanders in terms of being ingredients free trade and naft and transpacific partnership. that economic message is playing well in placements like michigan and you're seeing democratic cross-over voters who like what he is saying and they registered in the primary tonight. d

bernie sanders' brother crying -- >> it is with enormous pride that i cast my vote for bernie sanders. >> reporter: as the senator himself, in the convention hall, looked on with pride. >> reporter: we are down here on this floor right now. the sense in this hall, history is about to be made, as the democratic party nominates the first woman ever to be president of the united states. this is the democratic party trying to heal itself. prom innocent sanders supporters like comedian sarah silverman urging unity. >> i am proud to be apart of bernie's movement and a vital part of that movement is making absolutely sure that hillary clinton is our next president of the united states. >> reporter: but the reaction from many sanders die hards, a chorus of boos. >> can i just say -- to the bernie or bust people -- you're being ridiculous. >> reporter: the woman tasked with bringing calm to a house divided -- first lady michelle obama. taking it to donald trump without ever even mentioning his name. >> don't let anyone ever tell you that this country isn't great, that somehow we need to make i