david stewart: 17 years apart. he was considerably older. what you said is not the image of madison, which is usually a buttoned up bookworm. he was a fun loving guy. he made a lot of jokes. he was known for keeping this dinner table in stitches. they rough housed. there is a wonderful account of dolly putting him on her back and running around the house. they would run races on the front portico. brian lamb: was he that small? david stewart: that was the account. she was not a small one in. she was not small. brian lamb: with the two of them, what do you see? david stewart: it was commented on that she had an amazonian look. and he was still a skinny little guy. brian lamb: only 100 pounds? david stewart: maybe a bit over. brian lamb: i've seen it 5'2" 5'4", and 5'6". why is it a big difference? david stewart: i think because people were not measuring him. the folks in montpelier are adamant he was 5'6". the number you most often see is 5'4". or is no official version. the second i can do it he is no taller than 5'6". brian lamb: james and

david stewart: 17 years apart. he was considerably older. what you see is not the image of madison, which is usually a buttoned up bookworm. he was a fun loving guy. he made a lot of jokes. he was known for keeping this dinner table in stitches. they rough housed. there is a wonderful account of dolly putting him on her back and running around the house. while they are shrieking at each other. they would run races on the front portico. brian lamb: was he that small? david stewart: that was the account. she was not a small woman. she was not small. brian lamb: with the two of them, what do you see? david stewart: it was commented on that she had an amazonian look. and he was still a skinny little guy. brian lamb: only 100 pounds? david stewart: maybe a bit over. presidents don't usually have their weight taken, or at least then they didn't. brian lamb: i've seen it 5'2" 5'4", and 5'6". why is it a big difference? david stewart: i think because people were not measuring him. the folks in montpelier are adamant he was 5'6". the number you most

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david, sanford, maine. caller: i want to make a comment to c-span after i get done with the senator. i know you are trying hard, but you have to understand my question. i am going to teach greta and you a constitutional issue. all bills emanate from the house of representatives. you were just there for advise and consent. you do not like the bill coming out of the house of representatives, you send it back. somehow, it got changed around here. there is nothing in the constitution that says the senate makes bills. greta, last saturday, you had -- about policy about rudy giuliani and what he said about the president. do not bring up personal issues about a person again on c-span. the most nasty things from both sides were put on c-span. you should stay away from personal issues and talk about policy. thank you and have a good day. guest: you bring up an interesting question. all bills of revenue originate from the house. this is an appropriations bill. the house of representatives passed it and had multiple a

david: is there anything in their that would get your support? rep. shimkus: i want to be up to see how do we incentivize delaying a new fiber optic cable? because when you make a governmental demand on what a private entity can carry then is thealmost assuming -- government eventually going to have to get involved in funding so you can upkeep because you're demanding carriage? if you let a free market system incentivize the rights away to carry large packages may that incentivizes someone. where is the incentive to build? another thing that has to be considered a net year is spectrum. as we sit on capitol hill on this topic, could you give us what is happening legislatively on the house of the wireless spectrum and how the fcc handles it? rep. shimkus: it is a very exciting time. we would argue we had a successful spectrum auction a year ago. technology is a phenomenal thing and as why i'm serving on the committee. technology moves so fast we cannot regulate it. ,e know we need more spectrum abilities of the space to continue to innovate. we had a he