david stewart: 17 years apart. he was considerably older. what you see is not the image of madison, which is usually a buttoned up bookworm. he was a fun loving guy. he made a lot of jokes. he was known for keeping this dinner table in stitches. they rough housed. there is a wonderful account of dolly putting him on her back and running around the house. while they are shrieking at each other. they would run races on the front portico. brian lamb: was he that small? david stewart: that was the account. she was not a small woman. she was not small. brian lamb: with the two of them, what do you see? david stewart: it was commented on that she had an amazonian look. and he was still a skinny little guy. brian lamb: only 100 pounds? david stewart: maybe a bit over. presidents don't usually have their weight taken, or at least then they didn't. brian lamb: i've seen it 5'2" 5'4", and 5'6". why is it a big difference? david stewart: i think because people were not measuring him. the folks in montpelier are adamant he was 5'6". the number you most
