surveillance" with tom keene, jonathan ferro, and lisa abramowicz. tom: good morning, everyone. after our discussion yesterday with richard clarida, we get a reaffirmation on the american labor economy in this hour, claims, and all of the various numbers that come out with it. forget about the markets. forget about the chancellor of the exchequer actually dealing with the united kingdom labor market. it is a question of millions out of jobs. jonathan: permanent job losses as well, and permanent shifts in the economy. that's got to be my big take away, government confronting the idea that perhaps we are seeing permanent shifts in the economy, and they need to allow that creative destruction, the powerful transformation of capitalism to take hold and maybe step back a little bit more. i've got to say, some people will push back aggressively against that and say this is a pandemic, it will pass, and