government to attempt to pressure republicans in congress and the white house. joining me now, acting white house chief of staff mick mulvaney. thanks so much for joining us. really appreciate it. >> happy to be here. >> so, where we are in negotiations, the meeting is over, and i know that speaker pelosi had said she didn't want to give even more than $1 to the border wall. president trump has talked about $5.6 billion. is there any give in the $5.6 billion in terms of whether or not it has to be for a wall or whether it can be for more generally border security? >> well, i think the president said for a long time that it's $5.6 billion for border security, including the wall. we recognize that things like technology at port and border crossings is important and certainly a barrier is important. we didn't make much progress at the meeting, which was surprising to me. i thought we had come in to talk about terms that we could agree on, places where we've all agreed we should be...

>> he is proud to be doing what is needed to be done because we do need to defend the southern border. one of the most frustrating things, jake, about the meeting that we had yesterday was that we keevenz agree on the basic facts. dhs secretary kirstjen nielsen tried to point out that we had