>> i would be core conservative. i believe in free market and more trade is generally a better idea. charles: you realize the core conservatives are being pushed out by country first. president trump ran on country first. and there is a big emphasis on, we held up the rest of the world. now it's time to help ourselves. how does the party deal with that? >> i think by presenting solutions that will allow segments to come together. one of the reasons we have been disadvantaged in the strayed agreements is because american labor is so expensive because of the burdens the federal government placed on us by raising the cost of our healthcare, the cost of education. we can have conservative solutions that help solve those problems and put more americans back to work. charles: do you like the idea