less innocent versions are where it's hyper-ideological and left wing. maria: secretary pompeo has been on this program, and he has made the point many times that this is a national security risk, you know? that china represents a national security risk because of this very reason. >> sure. maria: they may be ahead of us in a.i., these are some of the areas that america wants to be number one in. so let me ask you about that in terms of where we are versus china in terms of a.i. >> well, i think we are ahead. i think, you know, i think google is probably still the leading, the leading place for a.i. research in -- not just in the u.s., but worldwide. we're not ahead by that much. and it doesn't matter that much if it gets, if all our discoveries get transferred to china in very short order. maria: and -- >> so, you know, i don't think it's -- yeah, so it's sort of like we were ahead with the nuclear program and then at some point we weren't. maria: don't go anywhere, more