joe biden really did a great job here. my biggest concern is that paula rice and hand the mitt romney want to wage war on china, iran and everywhere. that is really devastating and has weakened america that way. they're extremely shallow when it comes to foreign affairs. this is how they think. they want to wage war. they have no plan. it looks like joe biden, no doubt, much more skilled in this debate. he has one, no doubt. thank you. >> thank you. let's introduce you to rob -- robert. he is a professor at lynn university. it will host its own debate, the third and final one, on october 22 on foreign policy. professor watson has a key of scoring the debate. he worked on this. he has students watch and do this matrix. to judge how the debate turned out. the scoring process looks at these things. appeal to base, swing voters, control the agenda, goals, content of dancers, leadership, zingers and blunders, open, and close. who scored better? >> we are still calculating all the student pope is in response despite -- susans' r

. >> the obama campaign is not stping away from what joe biden said. talking about the middle-class. it was not a racial thing. you would think there would be ststepping away, but these attks are e just getting sharper and sharper. >> does anybody care what mitt romney paid in income taxes? >> i think there are a couple of fferent ways of looking at it. for r thee obama perspective, , how much mitt romney actually pa as a wealthy american matters. we have to consider transparency. mitt romney is going to have to prest his choices to the americanan people. how is he goingo expand foreigign pocy and economic decisis? the third most importantnt thing is mitt mney has been running for president since 2007. he could have t taken care ofis taxes a long time ago. we have t seenen him dohat. that raises questions abo his ility to plan. >> the romney campaigned said this just is more fodder to nitpick. itit is interesting to see -- i ththink people care about this issue.. he has released his 2010 taxes showing and above 13% rate. what he said yesterday it isis

joe biden is a liberal, a new deal. to point outownefirst that, while his own president said is that he's willing to raise the retirement age, joe biden says no. this is a major for medicare and social security. they will not be around. we are the party of the medicare and social security. what about now? what will you do when your own president has said medicare will die unless it is reform? i think he is inclined toward that new deal liberalism. you except what joe biden will say. if you listen to paul ryan, he said we have to amend it. we have to change it. and this is how we will do it. >> i want to get to policy, to appear in a week after the first presidential debate, why was the president still talking about it? >> at the debate, what happened? >> gov. romney had a good night. i had a bad night. it is not the first time i have had a bad night. >> in the polls are to be believed, it was a bad bad night. and the president was still talking about it a week later. in fact, he has not stopped talking about it. did the

if you listen to it on radio joe biden one. if youched it on tv, joe biden lost. if you heard it on radio, you would sa that joe biden hadad the energy. he was in control. he walked alll ovethe moderator and sometimes all over all rain. paul ryan was definitely differential. but ifou saw on tv with that mad smile that jack nicholson smile going right through the debate, the condescension and the eye roll, if you remember what it did did to al gore, it took away from the substantive debate. >> ihink, compared to president obama's performance last week,k, joe biden did an outstanding job. he knew his points and he was aggressive. but he smiled too much. he smiled at times when it was unnecessary. but that is matcheded by the smirk that came across paul ryan. it was an animated discussion and i think that joeiden had his own points that he needed to make. >> basically two-person debates are far beer when both people show up. [laughter] and theyhowedd up, unlike a a week ago when only o one showed up. i thought it was good and it served both parties. and paul ryan was

joe biden is a had a liberal, a new deal liberal. i am not averse to point out that, whereas his own president is willing to contemplate raising the retirement age, joe biden said, no, we will not touch these things. these things are sacred. everyone over the age of nine knows that come if you don't know anything -- if you don't do anything for medicare and social security, it will not be around. he made the case. we are the party of social security. the republicans largely oppose it. yes, that is true, for 50 years. what will you do when you're on president has said that medicare will die unless it is reformed? so if you're inclined toward that new deal liberalism, you will accept whatever joe biden had said. if you listen to paul ryan, and he was somewhat deferential, he said we have to amend it, we have to change it and here is how we will do it. >> a week after the first presidential debate, why is the president still talking about it? >> and that debate, what happened? >> gov. romney had a good night. i had a bad night. >> how b

joe biden is a liberal, a new deal. to point outownefirst that, while his own president said is that he's willing to raise the retirement age, joe biden says no. this is a major for medicare and social security. they will not be around. we are the party of the medicare and social security. what about now? what will you do when your own president has said medicare will die unless it is reform? i think he is inclined toward that new deal liberalism. you except what joe biden will say. if you listen to paul ryan, he said we have to amend it. we have to change it. and this is how we will do it. >> i want to get to policy, to appear in a week after the first presidential debate, why was the president still talking about it? >> at the debate, what hpened? >> gov. romney had a good night. i had a bad night. it is not the first time i have had a bad night. >> in the polls are to be believed, it was a bad bad night. and the president was still talking about it a week later. in fact, he has not stopped talking about it. did the s

joe biden is a liberal, a new deal. to point outownefirst that, while his own president said is that he's willing to raise the retirement age, joe biden says no. this is a major for medicare and social security. they will not be around. we are the party of the medicare and social security. what about n? what will you do when your own president has said medicare will die unless it is reform? i think he is inclined toward that new deal liberalism. you except what joe biden will say. if you listen to paul ryan, he said we have to amend it. we have to change it. and this is how we will do it. >> i want to get to policy, to appear in a week after the first presidential debate, why was the president still talking about it? >> at the debate, what happened? >> gov. romney had a good night. i had a bad night. it is not the first time i have had a bad night. >> in the polls are to be believed, it was a bad bad night. and the president was still talking about it a week later. in fact, he has not stopped talking about it. did the s

i would say joe biden barely pulled it out. go back to kennedy and nixon on the radio but watching it come with the blade he came across even though as a bully he came across more dominant. gerri: i felt the opposite. >> depends what you are looking for. dominant, powerful, what does his voice sound like? gerri: so much fun. california on the verge of financial ruin will offer up private pension plan. by the state cannot get its act together. >> the steadies point* witty will give another 200 -- 29 of a $2,000. >> the doughnut hole with $600 more. the bush tax cuts, 800 million -- billion -dollar. >> 1.7 -- 1.6 trillion dollar of wealth loss. gerri: numbers confusion. joe iden could not get hs facts straight. the truth behind his the truth behind his outrageous claims. ♪ grew up in a small town and when the rain would fall down ♪ ♪ i'd just stare out my window ♪ ♪ dreaming ofhat could be and if i'd end up happy ♪ ♪ i would pray i could breakaway ♪ ♪ i'll spread my wings and i'll learn how to fly ♪ i'll do wh

i would say joe biden barely pulled it out. go back to kennedy and nixon on the radio but watching it come with the blade he came across even though as a bully he came across more dominant. gerri: i felt the opposite. >> depends what you are looking for. dominant, powerful, what does his voice sound like? gerri: so much fun. california on the verge of financial ruin will offer up private pension plan. by the state cannot get its act together. >> the steadies point* witty will give another 200 -- 29 of a $2,000. >> the doughnut hole with $600 more. the bush tax cuts, 800 million -- billion -dollar. >> 1.7 -- 1.6 trillion dollars of wealth lss. gerri: numbers confusion. joe biden could not get his facts straight. the truth behind his outrageous claims. gerri: when it comes to the fact that matter the most the jobs market debt and deficit in his easy to of this gate and we saw lot of at last night with the vice-presidential deba. i want to set the record straight. vice president biden use the word fact 26 times the hard pressed to

republicans say of course. >> joe biden has been doing this since the 1800's. >> tonight, joe biden will make mincemeat of paul ryan. >> keep in mind, either way this is their first and only debate. there is no second chance. >> you can watch the vice- presidential debate right here on abc 7. coverage begins at 9:00. we invite you to log on to wjla.com/reaact from a smart phone or tablet. >> of family just 26 -- the race for president is tightening. mitt romney and president obama are hitting the battleground states. many of the key states are up for grabs. according to the new university survey, governor romney now leads in colorado, but still trailing in virginia and wisconsin. >> a tragic story developing in baltimore. a grandmother and four young children are dead following a house fire. the fire started around 2:00 this morning. the woman's husband and daughter jumped out of the window and survived. the four children were all under the age of seven. two firefighters were also hurt. >> some changes in the kind of crime being committed at metro stations. violent crime is down, but the

they will remember joe biden's mannerisms . michael goodwin said he was laughing in the begin angry in the end and it was not clear if his medication is wearing off. >> if you like joe biden you liked it. and if you didn't you thought it was a bore. what about the people in the middle? >> it was not the interruptions only but the condescending manner that turned off the voterss and thea may haunt the ticket later on >> do you think paul ryan rose to the presidential level on foreign policy? >> he did. look that a bit of a mixed performance at times. he scored heavily talking about libya and benghazi in the beginning and talking about american projecting its image in the world and some thought it was his most effective lines of the entire debate. i think there was less of a good response on syria and iran to a certain degree and the question isid whether or not biden's performance was over the top and did that matter. people were having a hard time paying attention to anything but joe biden. >> paul, it is supposed to be a debat

joe biden, those that thought joe biden did better. conversation very heated. let's start with claudia. you thought biden did better than ryan. why? >> he seemed to have a better command of the facts and more prepared with specifics. where i think ryan was more -- again, several people said he avoided giving specific information. biden seemed well informed. >> let's pass this back to arthur. why do you think joe biden did better? >> compared to what obama's performance, i thought he just didn't allow the facts to be blown out of proportion without the other side giving factual basis. >> these are some of the people that thought joe biden did better. a third of the people thought paul ryan was a winner. women tended to rate paul ryan more highly in our fork he is occupy. why you thought that paul ryan won. >> i thought paul ryan had aa better idea of the tax figures, educating us, is he until biden would try to dissort things by overriding him, talking, being a buffoon in general and very disappointed in the vice president acting that way. it gives good credence

about joe biden -- >> we're all happy with joe biden. >> the question is, does joe biden's shackles metaphor predominantly work to the advantage or disadvantage of the democratic ticket? >> he made himself a liability. >> it works to the disadvantage. the ticket, yes or no? >> democrats say this is joe. and they also -- >> what else can they say? >> what else can they say? >> they like what he said. [ laughter ] >> turning back the clock. >> they really say they want joe even though it is joe being joe. >> of course. >> it is a detraction from the democrats but not overwhelming. >> so keep joe? >> he is definitely going to stay. i don't think there is any chance he will leave. >> barack obama almost never fires anybody. or gets anybody out. the fact is he believes in loyalty. i will tell you, the last year, i will say it no, there is no chance that joe is not going to be on the ticket. and the fact of the matter is that the people complaining now are people who ain't going to vote for obama anyway. >> do you think that barack obama lacks ego? >> lacks ego? >> psycho analysis? >> do

joe biden has a good sense of humor. you are not going to see him paint barack obama in his debate. >> i hope it is more interesting. yes, there were 50 million people calling the first debate, and the question i have is, for how long? i was sitting there thinking, ok, obama did not show up to play, and this is unbelievably borig. if i did n havto do this for a living, i would turn on a show i wanted to watch. >> it depends on your perspective. i was fascinated, i was seized. my attention did not lapse for an hour-and-a-half. i have a medical question. if you saw the joe biden clip, how does a man of a certain age maintain such a high level of indignation continuously without getting a heart attack? can you believe what he is doing, all of this stuff? i think he needso go easy, and i say that as a punt medical opinion, not political. we are going to raise your taxes by a trillion dollars. i am sure obama loved hearing that. >> did they underestimate mitt romney? >> he can be very good in this setting. he is not touchy-fe

i would say joe biden barely pulled it out. go back to kenne and nixon on the radio but watching it come with the blade he came across even though as a bully he came across more dominant. gerri: i felt the opposite. >> depends what you are looking for. dominant, powerful, what does his voice sound like gerri: so muchfun. california on the vergef financial ruin will offer up private pension plan. by the state cannot get its act together. >> the steadies point* witty will give another 200 -- 29 of a $2,000. >> the doughnut hole with $600 more. the bush tax cuts, 800 million -- billion -dollar. >> 1.7 -- 1.6 trillion dollarsof wealth loss. gerri: numbers confusion. joe biden could not get his facts straight. the truth behind his outrageous claims. ♪ [ male announcer ] how doou make 70,000 trades a second... ♪ reach one customer at a time? ♪ or help doctors turn billio of bytes of shared information... ♪ into a fifth anniversary of remission? ♪ whatever your business challenge, dell has the technology and services to help

joe biden. run being mates with but a single goal. to paint the other one as unreliable. >> they got caught with their hands in the cookie jar. turning medicare into a piggy bank for obamacare. what we are witnessing as we turn on our television screens these days is the absolute unraveling of the obama foreign policy. >> with all due respect, that's at that bunch of malarkey. folks, use your common sense. who do you trust on this? gwen: a lively debate for both sides. >> not mathematically possible. >> it is mathematically possible. it's been done before. it's what we're proposing. >> it has never been done before. >> it's been done a couple of times actually. jack condition did i lowered tax asks increased growth. >> now you're jack kennedy. >> ronald reagan -- gwen: what won? style or sush stance. breaking it down for us tonight. doyle mcmanus of the "los angeles times." alexis simendinger of real clear politics. karen tumulty of "the washington post." and jeff zeleny of "the new york times." >> award winning reporting and analysis

i think joe biden won this debate. i don't think paul yin lost it. and i thought that paul ryan held his own against someone doing this about 100 years. >> and these poll numbers are they interesting and fun to look at? >> there is taking us a while is that it takes a while to figure out, and this is to figure out what happened. i know obama campaign people are adjusting after denver paying a lot of attention to swing states. and said what are people in colorado thinking about this and people in virginia and virginia. he said issue as side he said people got a clear choice on medicare and social security and abortion and other issues. >> and there is what joe biden is doing is bucking up democrats. if independents aren't decided at this point they're probably watching a baseball game tonight. democratsed a terrible week. they've been panicked and what they needed is someone throwing a punch. i think they got that in joe biden tonight. >> there is another segment ahead. straight head there is no doubt about the obama administration did mess up on resp

it's 0-for-3. >> i like that. >> eliot: send that on to joe biden. he can use that, too. we'll be here thursday night and we'll be here with popcorn and soda. jennifer granholm, thank you so much for your time. looking forward to seeing you for our coverage. >> youyou betcha. >> eliot: a billionaire resort owner tells his employees they may lose their jobs if barack obama gets reelect: that's next in my view. but first, a reminder tomorrow night join me along with cenk uygur, john fugelsang and governor jennifer granholm as we cover the vice presidential debate. al be an exciting match up. here on current tv. more "viewpoint" coming right up. (vo) what is said here could decide the election. current tv presents coverage of the vice presidential debate. with unrivaled analysis and commentary. >> was this the game changer? is this going to change the dynamic? (vo) the only network with real-time reaction straight from the campaigns and from viewers like you. >> so keep on tweeting and maybe you'll have your voice be part of this democracy and see your tweets up on our scree

joe biden has a good sense of humor. you are not going to see him paint barack obama in his debate. >> i hope it is more interesting. yes, there were 50 million people calling the first debate, and the question i have is, for how long? i was sitting there thinking, ok, obama did not show up to play, and this is unbelievably boring. if i did not have to do this for a living, i would turn on a show i wanted to watch. >> it depends on your perspective. i was fascinated, i was seized. my attention did not lapse for an hour-and-a-half. i have a medical question. if you saw the joe biden clip, how does a man of a certain age maintain such a high level of indignation continuously without getting a heart attack? can you believe what he is doing, all of this stuff? i think he needs to go easy, and i say that as a punt medical opinion, not political. we are going to raise your taxes by a trillion dollars. i am sure obama loved hearing that. >> did they underestimate mitt romney? >> he can be very good in this setting. he is not to

democrats certainly like how joe biden did as well. let's take a closer look at focus group of undecided virginia voters. how they responded. we measured reaction. the green line represents men. the yellow line is women. biden's best moment of the night. happened around 9:25 p.m. eastern. the question, if it's possible to get unemployment below 6%. listen to the vice president talk about taxes and the economy. >> they should be pledging to the middle class, we're going to level the playing feel. we'll give you a fair shot again. we're not going to repeat the mistakes we've done in the past by having a different set of rules for wall street and main street, making sure we continue to hemorrhage these tax cuts for the superwealthy. >> now let's take a look at paul ryan's best moment. he peaked at 9:27 p.m. eastern, answering the same question that biden peaked at. >> we need real reforms for real recovery. exactly what mitt romney and i are positive proposing. help people get the skills for the jobs they want. make trade work for america

joe biden dominated the debate. you can say he won, but it might be also that he lost the debate, especially once we see the saturday night live portray alf this. >> you mean he might have won in terms of -- >> well, he read the debate but he lost it, if you look at his smirk, snarl -- >> a former colleague said one of the measures of a debate is who cuts the ad after the debate. the rnc has this ad of laughter. i think it's very effective. and i think in the post debate, what are people going to remember? they aren't going to remember the fine points, they are going to remember joe biden's mannerisms. michael goodwin in the post said he was laughing in the beginning and angry at the end, it wasn't clear whether his medication was wearing off or kicking in. >> if you like joe biden you are happy with that performance f you didn't like joe biden, you thought he was a bore last night. but what about the people in the middle? what about the undecides? >> what do you think? >> i think it wasn't just the interruptions bu

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when he thanked joe biden, biden was smirking. i thought that came across as very disrespectful and symbol symbolic of the way that joe biden handled the night. on the substance, i was struck by the same thing with respect to libbia. it seemed that vice-president was criticizing the intelligence community, in some ways, by not giving them as much information as we thought. he blamed all the false statements of the obama administration on the intelligence community and seemed to raise questions about the confidence of the intelligence community and in a discussion about iran, he said, we will know when they go to -- when they go to a break-out for the bomb. it seems to me, there is major tension between those two statements on the one hand, suggesting they are not competent enough to know what happened on the ground in libya but saying they will know for sure if iran decides to go for the bomb. >> on domestic policy, we heard joe biden do what his boss, barack obama, did not, hammer the 47% comoant that mitt romney said and was tal

i would say joe biden barely pulled it out. go back to kennedy and nixon on the radio but watching it come with the blade he came across even though as a bully he came across more dominant. gerri: i felt the opposite. >> depends what you are looking for. dominant, powerful, what does his voice sound like? gerri: so much fun. california on the verge of financial ruin will offer up private pension plan. by the state cannot get its act together. >> the steadies point* witty will give another 200 -- 29 of a $2,000. >> the doughnut hole with $600 more. the bush tax cuts, 800 million -- billion -dollar. >> 1.7 -- 1.6 trillion dollars of wealth loss. gerri: numbers confusion. joe biden could not get his facts straight. the truth behind his outrageous claims. you see us, at the start of the day. on the company phone list that's a few names longer. you see us bank on busier highways. on once empty fields. everyday you see all the ways all of us at us bank are helping grow our economy. lending more so companies and communities can expand

but the star of the show was clearly joe biden. he had a number of statements he made i thought were excellent. but the issue the next day is that joe biden was boarish, he interfered, interrupted, was contemptuous and condescending to ryan and this is the talk the day after the debate. people are saying ryan won, republicans are saying ryan won, democrats are saying biden wonment he rallied a base that had been demoralized by roughing up ryan as well he could. but the second part where libya, i think those things make it the democratic party the day after. >> that may be too high octane as a negative descriptive. >> i would's hold to it. >> you are watching too much cable news television, pat. i thought joe biden did exactly what he needed to do. he rallied the democratic base, which was demoralized, and he made up some of the ground president obama lost a week ago. he took the fight repeatedly to paul ryan, didn't let him get away with any of that, and he interrupted a lot. but it was a terrific debate. the two candidates engaged

joe biden has a good sense of humor. you are not going to see him and barack obama in the debate. >> i hope it is an existing debate. there were 50 million people watching the first debate. the question i have is, for how long? i was sitting there thinking, ok, obama did not show up to play. this is unbelievably boring. if i did not have to do this for a living, i would watch a show that i wanted to. >> it depends on your perspective. i found it fascinating. i was seized. my attention did not lapse for an hour-and-a-half. i think he might be slightly skewed. if you saw the joe biden clip, how does a man of uncertain age maintain such a high level of indignation, continuously, without getting a heart attack? can you believe he is doing all this stuff? i think he needs to go easy. i say that as a medical opinion, not a political opinion. laying in the weeds he said that we will raise your taxes. i am sure that obama love to hear that. >> did we underestimate mitt romney? it has even this could all along? >> he can be good

so what did joe biden do? he threw the intel community under the bus. >> when people in the consulate first saw armed men attacking, there were no protesters. why did that go on? >> we were told by the intelligence community. >> andrea: wait until you hear the white house spin this afternoon. that's up next on "the five." ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ >> dana: many americans are still trying to figure out what the administration knew about the libya terror attack. joe biden started out of the gate last night. >> what were you first told about the attack? why were people talking about protests? when people in the consulate first saw armed me there were no protesters? why did that go on? >> we were told by the intelligence community, the intelligence community told us that as they learned more facts about exactly what happened. they changed. we weren't told they wanted more security. we did not know they wanted more security. by the way, at the time, we were told exactly, said what the intelligence community told us they knew

they came in with joe biden who was classic joe biden. n. barack obama, talking in a really tough terms. the democrats suddenly all national security? what happened to american policy as we know it? >> one of the interesting things about this night is it gives democrats a chance to look strong on some of their biggest issues traditionally. both defense and national security. how many times did we hear the name bin laden tonight? one of his favorite lines, osama bin laden is dead and general motors is a life. >> all three of them were killed mitt romney and paul ryan. it was relentless. >> the president wrote it in. -- rubbed it in. and bill clinton had the best speech. what surprised me about this is it seemed aimed more at democrats. this gives you a sense of what's this will be going forward. we can see them try to do that with democrats. he had them chanting, "four more years" constantly. >> i thought going in that -- because bill clinton did so well that barack obama of a competitor would want to outshine him and it would lead him to do

i would say joe biden barely pulled it out. go back to kennedy and nixon on the radio but watching it come with the blade he came across even though as a bully he came across more dominant. gerri: i felt the opposite. >> depends what you are oking for. dominant, powerful, what does his voice sound like? gerri: so much fun. california on the verge of financial ruin will offer up private pension plan. by the state cannot get its act together. >> the steadies point* witty will give another 200 -- 29 of a $2,000. >> the doughnut hole with $600 more. the bush tax cuts, 800 million -- billion -dollar. >> 1.7 -- 1.6 trillion dollars of wealth loss. gerri: nubers confusion. joe biden couldot get his facts straight. the truth behind his outrageous claims. gerri: when it comes to the fact that matter the most the jobsmarket debt and deficit in his easy to of this gate and we saw lot of that last night with the vice-presidential debate. i want to set the record straight. vice psident biden use the word fact 26 times the hard pressed to de

can paul ryan keep the republican momentum going in his face-off with joe biden? >> skrooip vice-presidential candidates joe biden get their chance when the two square off in kentucky in the one and only debate. and jason, let's first talk about, i guess it's been six weeks or so since the paul ryan selection. how well has he done on the ticket and added to the romney campaign? >> well, i think he's helped to energize republicans and i think he's helped romney and turned out to be a solid pick and the first role is do no harm and he's cleared that bar. i don't think he's helped as much in wisconsin, romney was hoping to get a pump there and maybe make it more competitive and the real clear politics average, up by about seven points and that hasn't panned out and put a bunch of ads out after the convention and wanted to put wisconsin in play and that hasn't worked out. overall, i think that ryan has been a solid pick and part of the debate and there's no evidence that it's harming the ticket. >> paul: kim, the poll right after the ryan pick for the two weeks leadin

there is so much pressure on him to beat joe biden, that if joe biden comes out, he kind of wins. >> joe biden became a senator when paul ryan was three years old, i read. isn't that amazing? and let's play a clip from bill clinton, this was from last night. i thought he hit the nail on the head on how the democrats are perceiving the transformation to mitt romney. >> i had a different reaction from the last debate than a lot of other people did. i mean, i thought wow, here is old moderate mitt. where you been, boy? i missed you all of these last two years. >> it is fascinating, i mean when you watch this row today again over the abortion comments that mitt romney made, if you chart just his history of statements about abortion, flopping all over the place. >> your head could spin like you're in "the exorcist," i mean, bill clinton is having so much fun. the candidates are not -- >> does it help clinton that he is so brilliant? it could almost work against him, people watch him being aggressive, all the things we didn't see from the president in the other night? could it hurt him? >>

what are the similarities between ted olson and joe biden? >> they are are about the same age and ted olson is one really good debater. i hope joe biden shows more than ted olson because he is one of the best litigators in america. he has studied joe biden's tapes and records and style and ted as you know is one of the best litigators in america and pretty good at adapting to that. >> chris: have you got lines already prepared? attack lines? >> i'm not the a line guy. you know me well. i don't try to be anybody other than who i am. i believe in what i believe and i do what i do and i really believe in the policies we are providing that we are pursuing. and at the end of the day i'm just going to go in there and be me. >> chris: i know you were hoping that joe biden makes one of his occasional gaffes. >> he doesn't do that in debaits. the gaffes he is kind of ledgentary for this. that is not in these situations. he is a disciplined person when speaks in these kind of situations and doesn't produce gaffes in these moments. those are when is off

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joe biden, did his performance maybe do him any favors? we will find out >>> each week day hear my daily commentary the huckabee report and the mike huckabee show on radio. details at mikehuckabee .com. >> president obama's is poll numbers have been free falling since the first debate. well, did joe biden's performance help or hurt the campaign? joining me to talk about it former democratic pollster to six presidential campaigns and a fox news contributor and president of the polling company kelly ann conway. good to have both of you you here. >> thank you. >> pat, do you think that the demeanor of joe biden, the nearing and laughing and indifference how does that resonate with voters or it doesn't? >> the vice presidential debates don't matter what happen in the campaigns. if it did we would have hat vice president benson. remember that debate. remember jack kennedy. it as place to put issues up. what biden is trying to do is energize the base. i thought for most of the debate he made points. the problem was the demeanor and style. then t

it's going to be about joe biden. if it takes seven minutes of him acting nuts we're going to roll it seven minute. >> he will be caught laughing and smiling to show you he couldn't turn it off. he didn't know when to turn it on. >> sean: bret baier pointed that out. he was doing this during serious discussion on iran. and when he said about iran calm down, the ire yawnin that's believe in islamic state have been fighting proxy terror wars we're supposed to calm down as they get closer to a nuclear weapon? >> i think what paul ryan did not only did he win the battle on taxes and laid that vision out for america, but he also showed this country how deep he is on foreign policy. i think he showed incredible depth and intelligence whit comes to where our place in the world is in the east. -- middle east. the fact is that what they have a problem with is that they've got a problem with facts and reality. they can't talk about plans for future and blame everyone else from where we are in this country. now, they can't talk