gutierrez is live in austin with the latest on this, good morning. >> reporter: good morning, to you, martha, we spoke to vernon hunter's now widow, valerie and she did confirm to us that her husband, 67-year-old vernon, was the second casualty in the case, tragically and late last night two bodies were pulled from the building behind me and one of which we are under the impression is that of joe stack, the alleged suicide pilot in this case and the other, now confirmed by the family, 67-year-old vernon hunter, i'm told that he was a revenue office manager, at the irs building, he was responsible for collections, and we have also learned that valerie, again, his now widow, also worked inside this building, with her husband, and i asked her, if she had ever seen or heard the name joe stack and she tells me that she has no idea who he was and as you can imagine, martha, i know you are a mother, a wife, and she is confused, she's hurting, angry, and obviously, at what is being reported, and, now, we know, you know, obviously learning more this morning, and, together, she and vernon have