. >> chairman: thank you, ms. chapman. next speaker, please. >> caller: can you hear me now? >> chairman: please proceed. >> caller: good morning. david pilpel. several comments on this. i think it's important to make this workable. i think ethics is absolutely critical here with regulations, forms, and examples. whether you write it into the legislation or not, you may want to think about notice to various actors such as a notice to members of a nonprofit board if there's -- if they're prohibited from conduct for six months or whatever so that they are on notice that their certain conduct is prohibited, perhaps requiring training for those actors. certainly, you could require training or enhanced training for city department heads, members of boards and commission, city employees, on specific suggestions on page one, line 16, i believe 'and' should come back in before the deleting portion. let's see what else. on page 3, line 15, i think that should be indented on the reference to interested party. on page 6, line 7, you just had a brief discussion about public appeal. i'm n

. >> chairman: thank you, ms. chapman. next speaker, please. >> caller: can you hear me now? >> chairman: please proceed. >> caller: good morning. david pilpel. several comments on this. i think it's important to make this workable. i think ethics is absolutely critical here with regulations, forms, and examples. whether you write it into the legislation or not, you may want to think about notice to various actors such as a notice to

the issue that ms. chapman brings up is a mistake in the zoning. that is why today's hearing is being held to resolve that issue and the staff is prepared to resolve that. i don't see a need for a further continuance at this location and i ask that you not continue this matter and hear it today. >> clerk: commissioners, in case you have staff, i believe staff is online in case you have questions related to that continuance request. >> hello. i have a question about 6424 third street. has it been continued? >> clerk: yes, that's being considered at the moment. the proposal is for it to be continued to may 13. >> am i able to make comments or questions? >> clerk: only on the matter of continuance. this is not a q&a period. >> i have e-mailed in my questions. i am a resident across the street. >> clerk: if you have no questions on the continuance, they will respond to your questions. members of the public, last call. you have two minutes. >> my name is michael kohola and i'm a resident on wood street and i want to comment on the 2800 dairy boulevard t

. >> chairman: thank you, ms. chapman. are there any other members of the public here for item number two for public comment? >> clerk: there are no other members of the public waiting for public comment at this time. >> chairman: okay. public comment is closed. in all seriousness, as to the second speaker's question about fiscal impact in so far as this is a fee for a service and that service is not being provided. there is no fiscal impact because there's no work being done to measure the accuracy of the device during this brief period as we figured out and the state figures out how to measure t.n.c. devices which is going to take a little while and just so that that speaker knows the amount of money collected on an annual base i've been informed is less than $200,000 per end. with that, i would like to make motion to send this item to the full board with the positive recommendation of the co-sponsors of supervisor mandelman and chan. on that, a roll call vote, please. >> clerk: yes. on that motion, [roll call] the motio

. >> chairman: thank you, ms. chapman. next speaker, please. >> caller: can you hear me now? >> chairman: please proceed. >> caller: good morning. david pilpel. several comments on this. i think it's important to make this workable. i think ethics is absolutely critical here with regulations, forms, and examples. whether you write it into the legislation or not, you may want to think about notice to various actors such as a notice to members of a nonprofit board if there's -- if they're prohibited from conduct for six months or whatever so that they are on notice that their certain conduct is prohibited, perhaps requiring training for those actors. certainly, you could require training or enhanced training for city department heads, members of boards and commission, city employees, on specific suggestions on page one, line 16, i believe 'and' should come back in before the deleting portion. let's see what else. on page 3, line 15, i think that should be indented on the reference to interested party. on page 6, line 7, you just had a brief discussion about public appeal. i'm n

the issue that ms. chapman brings up is a mistake in the zoning. that is why today's hearing is being held to resolve that issue and the staff is prepared to resolve that. i don't see a need for a further continuance at this location and i ask that you not continue this matter and hear it today. >> clerk: commissioners, in case you have staff, i believe staff is online in case you have questions related to that continuance request. >> hello. i have a question about 6424 third street. has it been continued? >> clerk: yes, that's being considered at the moment. the proposal is for it to be continued to may 13. >> am i able to make comments or questions? >> clerk: only on the matter of continuance. this is not a q&a period. >> i have e-mailed in my questions. i am a resident across the street. >> clerk: if you have no questions on the continuance, they will respond to your questions. members of the public, last call. you have two minutes. >> my name is michael kohola and i'm a resident on wood street and i want to comment on the 2800 dairy boulevard t

chapman. with that, general -- or excuse me, public comment on that item is closed. commissioners, we can now move to general public comment. at this time, members of the public may address the commission on items of interest to the public that are within the subject matter jurisdiction of the commission except agenda items. with respect to agenda items, your opportunity to address the commission will be afforded when the item is reached in the meeting. each member of the public may address the commission for up to three minutes. when the number of speakers exceed the 15-minute limit, general public comment may be moved to the end of the agenda. members of the public, press star, three to enter the queue and begin speaking when the system indicates you have been unmuted. >> oh, hi, this is georgia schiutish. when there are plans for these demo calcs, the calcs on them are often squishy. although the calcs for those two projects did not pass the threshold, they were very close, and the submitted calcs were not close, as they turned in the past, the commission would no

>> your time is running, ms. chapman. >> okay. the documentation that i have in my lap is the resolution from the state assembly commending the rezonings that we did in the 1980s as being epitomizing the ideal americans at this point, they've been wiped out by somebody in your the other thing i have in my lap restoring the principles of housing preservation to the san francisco master plan and that is when dean mackris realized he made an error in substituting placement housing and in the course of hearing where the commissioners were supposed to approve his housing element. he came out to me in the audience, took my hand and said i'm going to tell him we made a mistake and we're going to do it. we have a massive mistake. we have some corrupt thing that happened in your department of the redrawing of all the zoning maps, you know. and so, i'm calling this to your attention. we're not talking about 22 plus or some little mistake and you just have to pause these things. developers have had their projects stopped when people filed a

. >> ms. chapman. you may have lowered your hand. if you want to press star 3 to raise your hands so i can unmute you. >> thank you for that. density is what rob hill. that is what is characteristic of rob hill what we always wanted. it means a lot of one bedroom and studio apartments and two bedrooms, a lot of units on a particular piece of land, not a huge size. that is what this is. completely out of scale enormous lots with a big building and not for our neighborhood. the reason it is this big is because there was -- they were told it was 80-foot was okay. they filled up the whole envelope. there are other ways this could be done with having a lot of units. if you continued it and did redesign. for example, you don't have to have stores on california street. there are none there now. there are some spaces that are common area in the building interior that could be moved down stairs so that the above grade could be more housing units. you could get rid of some of the three bedroom units in the mix. in nob hill those are not family

the issue that ms. chapman brings up is a mistake in the zoning. that is why today's hearing is being held to resolve that issue and the staff is prepared to resolve that. i don't see a need for a further continuance at this location and i ask that you not continue this matter and hear it today. >> clerk: commissioners, in case you have staff, i believe staff is online in case you have questions related to that continuance request. >> hello. i have a question about 6424 third street. has it been continued? >> clerk: yes, that's being considered at the moment. the proposal is for it to be continued to may 13. >> am i able to make comments or questions? >> clerk: only on the matter of continuance. this is not a q&a period. >> i have e-mailed in my questions. i am a resident across the street. >> clerk: if you have no questions on the continuance, they will respond to your questions. members of the public, last call. you have two minutes. >> my name is michael kohola and i'm a resident on wood street and i want to comment on the 2800 dairy boulevard t

chapman. apologies to any speakers this afternoon. we are setting the timer for two minutes. okay. so we have six listeners. excuse me, we have seven listeners and six members of the public in the queue. let's hear from the next speaker, please. welcome, caller. >> blessings everyone. my name is dominique howling. i work at community united against violence as the justice program manager in san francisco. i'm here to support the resolution in the division act as i believe in the transformation of individuals and collective healing in an interest that disrupts families and larger communities. i've worked with criminalized survivors for several years now and the compounded trauma that's created by interpersonal and state violence that continues to dehumanize our community members. it's heart breaking and painful to witness the many ways folks are impacted on a physical, emotional, and mental level. instead of detention centers and deportation that creates more harm, punishment, and isolation. i hope that our leadership in california can continue to be rooted in values of compassion,

chapman i apologize to interrupt you this afternoon. we are setting the timer for two minutes. operations, let's hear from the next caller. welcome, caller. >> caller: hello, my name is [indiscernible] and i currently live in district 11, and i wanted to call in regards to the context of what net positive, actionable, um, efforts in regards to equity and the term equity itself. so the term equity in the past eight months that i have been participating in local government related items, just like voicing my opinion, i feel like it's been used a lot loosely. and the meaning of that has been, like, just watered down quite significantly. for example, it's used as a method to justify something that kind of puts us on a positive for the whole community as a whole, like, maybe some district alone itself, you know, which i totally understand. but in regards to equity, i was hoping that, you know, when using the term just keeping in mind that when used, it should be envisioned with the equity of the whole entire s.f. city, not just particularly a neighborhood or a district. again, i tot

chapman. that is your time. i have heard from staff directly as you were making your comments that claude ina will reach out to you. samantha is no longer with the department which is why you were calling a number that may not have voice mail on it. go ahead, caller. >> can you hear me? hello? >> jonas: yes, we can. >> my name is teresa calderon. i'm asking to postpone the conditional use approval for 1525 pine street for at least three weeks to august 13. the reason is that the project sponsor performed a life study, but minimized effects of the building on the life of the second, third and fourth floors. they were using averages rather than showing a 90% light reduction for the second floor for example. that shows a negative 15% light reduction for all the units that are in the lightwell. and also, they were focusing on the light that is outside in the courtyard rather than the light is that in the units. and in addition, the project sponsors rather than addressing our concerns proposed to replace natural ligh

ms. chapman rightfully observed the over predominance of glass on the west facing facade. and if there would be some kind of recall on related demonstration or what brings it more into the overall massing and patterns of the building and that would greatly help. i would also kind of question that the addition of the sixth floor together with the roof deck fully built out and looks like the seventh floor is appropriate for the location. so those are some of the comments and curious to hear what other people have to say. >> commissioner fung? >> and i don't have an issue with the design and initially i did have an issue with massing. and this is an element of the context. and for it to go two floors above many of the other and three floors in some instances above many of the other buildings and initially created some thought of my mind that perhaps the massing was too great. the fact that it's floor to floor heights are lesser than probably than the older building adjacent to it and allows it to hide its height a little bit. and upon second thought, prepared to support the p

. >> thank you, ms. chapman. that is your time. >> hello. this is david i'm speaking on behalf of one of the property owners in the austin. it's in conceivable we're still having this hearing to approve the project. if there was 20% shadow on a public park you'd be considering that significant. we're talking about averages of 50% or more loss of light to these human people and that is clearly significant. ms. pelosi already identified the state density bonus law that talks about any specific adverse impact upon public health and safety or the physical environment allows the local jurisdiction to deny the state density bonus. this is reference to objective standards. the objective standards here have been in the planning code and in the building code that identify how a building should be built to provide light. it's all in the lux standard in the study provided by the project sponsor. those lux standards show what pitch black is and what dark is. >> thank you for your time. commissioners that will conclude public comment on the item and it i

. >> clerk: thank you for your comment, ms. chapman. my apologies to interrupt any speakers this evening. we are setting the timer for two minutes. so we're hoping that you mr. tie your comments to two minutes. okay. operations, let's hear from the next caller, please. >> hi, board of supervisors. my name is pat and i'm calling about the issue of flag stops in san francisco. those of you who aren't aware, a flag stop and a bus stop with these block side car parking. this is illegal car parking where the city allows the car driver to park in front of the bus stop. this creates all sorts of problems and is hopefully obvious when people can't -- they would have to squeeze between parked cars to board the bus which makes it difficult for people in wheelchairs, people with walkers, the elderly, people who have things in their hands, carrying bags or have a stroller, it's also very dangerous because people have to walk in between the cars in the street. and often times bus drivers won't see people waiting for the bus and they don't realize so

. >> clerk: thank you for your comments, ms. chapman. can we have the next caller. >> hello commissioners. my name is christopher peterson. i am a resident of district seven and 94112 zip code. i support much in the resolution especially the provisions calling for improved transit services to golden gate park. the provisions it would allow people from certain parts of the city to parks for free at the music concourse garage regardless of what their household income might be however conflicts with the transit first policies without advancing any equity purpose. the charter requires parking policies for areas well served by public transit to be designed to encourage travel by public transit and alternative transportation to allow all residents in certain zip codes to park at the garage for free regardless of income, while encourage people from those areas to drive instead of take transit. this is especially true of zip codes 94112, 94133, and also parts of the knob hill parts of 94108. large areas of those zip codes do not remotely qualify

. >> clerk: thank you, ms. chapman. we have four in queue. next speaker. >> caller: good afternoon again supervisors. this is cathy deluca. i work with community living campaign and we serve older adults and adults with disabilities in the city. the majority of whom live on the west side. we're super excited to see more housing opportunities in the city, but making sure folks can travel safely to and from that housing is vital and making sure service providers can come to those houses to give in-home services is vital. i've heard from so many older adults and folks with disabilities during the pandemic when muni service was cut back. i heard things like i am stranded in my home. i would have never moved to this neighborhood if i knew there wouldn't be a bus. i heard people say i can't transfer to another bus, it's just too hard. i've heard folks say i can't get anyone to come to my home to help me because there's no bus. folks have said, i can't walk to the bus because i can't get up and down that hill with my walker. most of the seniors and

chapman. apologies to any speakers this afternoon. we are setting the timer for two minutes. okay. so we have six listeners. excuse me, we have seven listeners and six members of the public in the queue. let's hear from the next speaker, please. welcome, caller. >> blessings everyone. my name is dominique howling. i work at community united against violence as the justice program manager in san francisco. i'm here to support the resolution in the division act as i believe in the transformation of individuals and collective healing in an interest that disrupts families and larger communities. i've worked with criminalized survivors for several years now and the compounded trauma that's created by interpersonal and state violence that continues to dehumanize our community members. it's heart breaking and painful to witness the many ways folks are impacted on a physical, emotional, and mental level. instead of detention centers and deportation that creates more harm, punishment, and isolation. i hope that our leadership in california can continue to be rooted in values of compassion,

. >> ms. chapman. you may have lowered your hand. if you want to press star 3 to raise your hands so i can unmute you. >> thank you for that. density is what rob hill. that is what is characteristic of rob hill what we always wanted. it means a lot of one bedroom and studio apartments and two bedrooms, a lot of units on a particular piece of land, not a huge size. that is what this is. completely out of scale enormous lots with a big building and not for our neighborhood. the reason it is this big is because there was -- they were told it was 80-foot was okay. they filled up the whole envelope. there are other ways this could be done with having a lot of units. if you continued it and did redesign. for example, you don't have to have stores on california street. there are none there now. there are some spaces that are common area in the building interior that could be moved down stairs so that the above grade could be more housing units. you could get rid of some of the three bedroom units in the mix. in nob hill those are not family

and justification was made -- >> thank you, ms. chapman. that's your time. >> jonas: members of the public, i would like to remind you that your comments should be limited to the adequacy and accuracy of the draft environmental impact report. >> good afternoon, commissioners. cory smith on behalf of the housing action coalition. really excited to support this project here today. a couple blocks from one of the main thoroughfares in san francisco and van ness. excited to get the b.r.t. opened up. a place that could use more housing and density. we see this fitting that fabric. for the adequacy of the eir, the staff that the city have are topnotch and so we're excited to support and watch this project continue moving forward. thank you very much. >> thank you. last call for public comment on the accuracy and adequacy of the draft environmental impact report. seeing no additional requests to speak from members of the public, public comment on this matter is closed and it is now before you, commissioners, for your review and comment. >> commiss

. >> ms. chapman. you may have lowered your hand. if you want to press star 3 to raise your hands so i can unmute you. >> thank you for that. density is what rob hill. that is what is characteristic of rob hill what we always wanted. it means a lot of one bedroom and studio apartments and two bedrooms, a lot of units on a particular piece of land, not a huge size. that is what this is. completely out of scale enormous lots with a big building and not for our neighborhood. the reason it is this big is because there was -- they were told it was 80-foot was okay. they filled up the whole envelope. there are other ways this could be done with having a lot of units. if you continued it and did redesign. for example, you don't have to have stores on california street. there are none there now. there are some spaces that are common area in the building interior that could be moved down stairs so that the above grade could be more housing units. you could get rid of some of the three bedroom units in the mix. in nob hill those are not family

>> your time is running, ms. chapman. >> okay. the documentation that i have in my lap is the resolution from the state assembly commending the rezonings that we did in the 1980s as being epitomizing the ideal americans at this point, they've been wiped out by somebody in your the other thing i have in my lap restoring the principles of housing preservation to the san francisco master plan and that is when dean mackris realized he made an error in substituting placement housing and in the course of hearing where the commissioners were supposed to approve his housing element. he came out to me in the audience, took my hand and said i'm going to tell him we made a mistake and we're going to do it. we have a massive mistake. we have some corrupt thing that happened in your department of the redrawing of all the zoning maps, you know. and so, i'm calling this to your attention. we're not talking about 22 plus or some little mistake and you just have to pause these things. developers have had their projects stopped when people filed a

. >> clerk: thank you, ms. chapman. we have four in queue. next speaker. >> caller: good afternoon again supervisors. this is cathy deluca. i work with community living campaign and we serve older adults and adults with disabilities in the city. the majority of whom live on the west side. we're super excited to see more housing opportunities in the city, but making sure folks can travel safely to and from that housing is vital and making sure service providers can come to those houses to give in-home services is vital. i've heard from so many older adults and folks with disabilities during the pandemic when muni service was cut back. i heard things like i am stranded in my home. i would have never moved to this neighborhood if i knew there wouldn't be a bus. i heard people say i can't transfer to another bus, it's just too hard. i've heard folks say i can't get anyone to come to my home to help me because there's no bus. folks have said, i can't walk to the bus because i can't get up and down that hill with my walker. most of the seniors and

chapman i apologize to interrupt you this afternoon. we are setting the timer for two minutes. operations, let's hear from the next caller. welcome, caller. >> caller: hello, my name is [indiscernible] and i currently live in district 11, and i wanted to call in regards to the context of what net positive, actionable, um, efforts in regards to equity and the term equity itself. so the term equity in the past eight months that i have been participating in local government related items, just like voicing my opinion, i feel like it's been used a lot loosely. and the meaning of that has been, like, just watered down quite significantly. for example, it's used as a method to justify something that kind of puts us on a positive for the whole community as a whole, like, maybe some district alone itself, you know, which i totally understand. but in regards to equity, i was hoping that, you know, when using the term just keeping in mind that when used, it should be envisioned with the equity of the whole entire s.f. city, not just particularly a neighborhood or a district. again, i tot

chapman. apologies to any speakers this afternoon. we are setting the timer for two minutes. okay. so we have six listeners. excuse me, we have seven listeners and six members of the public in the queue. let's hear from the next speaker, please. welcome, caller. >> blessings everyone. my name is dominique howling. i work at community united against violence as the justice program manager in san francisco. i'm here to support the resolution in the division act as i believe in the transformation of individuals and collective healing in an interest that disrupts families and larger communities. i've worked with criminalized survivors for several years now and the compounded trauma that's created by interpersonal and state violence that continues to dehumanize our community members. it's heart breaking and painful to witness the many ways folks are impacted on a physical, emotional, and mental level. instead of detention centers and deportation that creates more harm, punishment, and isolation. i hope that our leadership in california can continue to be rooted in values of compassion,

. >> clerk: thank you for your comments, ms. chapman. can we have the next caller. >> hello commissioners. my name is christopher peterson. i am a resident of district seven and 94112 zip code. i support much in the resolution especially the provisions calling for improved transit services to golden gate park. the provisions it would allow people from certain parts of the city to parks for free at the music concourse garage regardless of what their household income might be however conflicts with the transit first policies without advancing any equity purpose. the charter requires parking policies for areas well served by public transit to be designed to encourage travel by public transit and alternative transportation to allow all residents in certain zip codes to park at the garage for free regardless of income, while encourage people from those areas to drive instead of take transit. this is especially true of zip codes 94112, 94133, and also parts of the knob hill parts of 94108. large areas of those zip codes do not remotely qualify