in order for obama care to work not only do they need to sign ut for obama care they need to be over charged. >> in the back. >> that is not true. >> if you are -- >> talking over one another) >> no one is going to sign up. >> one at a time. >> the problem is>> no one willy sign up if you can stay on your parent's ininsurance. >> it is the height of personal responsibility to pay for your g healthcare. >> if you walk into an emergench room without healthcare who pays for that? everybody on the panel pays for that. now you have the 23, 25-year-olds getting coverage. they are covered. >> okay guys, simple question. what is the unemployment rate amongst the young? how are they going to pay for something when they don't have jobs? >> they can stay on their parent's plan. >> coming up still much more tot discuss as we continue with ourn studio audience. a lot to get to as we continue.t ♪ ♪ unh ♪ [ male announcer ] you can choose to blend in. ♪ or you can choose to blend out. the all-new 2014 lexus is. it's your move. getting the right nutrition isn't always easy. first, i want a w

what is teaching americans about obama care is the reality and implementation of obama care. that's the problem that president obama has to it deal with. and they it are learning about tradeoffs in obama care. for everybody that it hurts somebody else will pay more. >> did the democrats pressure the white house. and you can't hang us out to dry with this? >> democrats met with white house officials on capitol hill. they are very nervous. every democrat is up for reelection and democrats in the senate are as well. and anybody who has been here since 2010, if you are democrat, you voted for obama care. you will have a republican opponent who points to people who lost their koefrng and paying higher deductibles and they will say it is your fault. >> we are 90 minutes away from the president's first pr push. thank you for previewing it for us. >> there is a new report from the washington post that combines all of the healthcare.gov errors and impacted a third of the people signing up. that is raising questioning of whether they will get the coverage they were expecting in the now

obama care separately. that is what the poll was about. that is what is being miscited. because it implicates democrats. >> we'll be right back, dana and leslie, we'll continue to monitor and dip in right now as a matter of fact, we'll take a look at what is going on at the senate floor with ted cruz. take a look. >> if we're standing and fighting and walking the walk, our believes should be self-evident. d.c. responds, the d.c. establishment responds, anyone who tries to tell the truth -- look, i promise you. my observations right now that there are some republicans who would like a symbolic vote and then would like to lose so they don't have a risk of it actually being defunded, i promise you those comments are not getting me invited to any cocktail parties in washington any time soon. >> all right, we'll s"!]contin. mr. cruz goes to washington. don't forget, we want to hear from you, the companion site, fox news, hannity.com, you follow the live show. you get to pick about obama care. the heritage found

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obama who? >> they are fleeing the scene of the obama care accident. look, you have the democrat in north carolina, senator kay hagan whose nine-point lead evaporated in the last few weeks. there is an obama care effect. democrats are running scared. hillary clinton should be nervous. she's the god mother of socialized medicine. >> the polls show 50% of the american people believe he told them an intentional lie. >> i will disagree. >> if obama care is the central issue not just next year but in 2016. >> it's not going to be. here's why. smart democrats in tough re-election battles will force the president and the party to put in a fix quickly. i think obama care was the law that could be improved. look, i think you have to follow president clinton's advice which president obama picked up on. they will get a bill out into the senate and into the house that's going to be allowing people whose plans are cancelled. they have to fix it. >> there is a question about whether that collapses obama care. they need the people to abandon the plan. >> the only fix

obama care isn't working. it's only been two days. >> the washington post's policy blog tried to find somebody somewhere in the united states -- one person, bob, to sign up that did it successfully. they can't do it. >> that's ridiculous. >> it's the washington post. it's true. >> let me ask you about the $10,000 swing. president said $900 billion. every family would save $2500. it's costing them $7500. >> where did you get that number from? >> forbes.com. it give use state by state percentage increases. california up to 160%. florida, 40%. >> that doesn't -- >> 46 states, people will see premium increases, not savings. that doesn't faze you? >> the premiums will come down. it takes a while to get people hooked up. >> the sad part is you are fronting for a lousy health insurance industry that's never done anything helpful for the country but rip them off. >> that's not fair. how long have we known each other? when do i shill for insurance companies? >> apologize. >> i'm not going to. you shill for them. you gu

show is listed as a navigator on the obama care. >> you cannot help the public with obama care? >> no. >> i am here in brooklyn waiting to speak to my health care professional in sam brand auto. >> we unfortunately can't help you with your health and after all of the problem. they listed the wrong phone number. >> you have angry new yorkers assuming you are not helping them. nright, that is not good. if you know brock lincupcakes we do a lot for the community and that is not our style. >> can you rent me a car insurance. can that hit a car with car insurance so i could so a doctor. can you help me get medicare. no. can you help me get medical marijuana? no. >> if you are calling here looking for health insurance you will not get it? but you will get delicious diabetes. you have an acent where are you from? >> rushia. >> how did socialism work out for you guys? >> i am here now! (applause) yes, he is. that says it all. by the way, ryan was asking about could he get marijuana, notice he didn't ask about brownies. and i am so glad he didn't go there. by the cupcakes, they look fant

coverage under obama care. under 30 hours, they don't. >> the company isn't alone. last month sea world announced it would reduce hours for thousands of workers. forever 21 reclassified some full-time employees as part-time. both deny it is due to obama care but industry experts suggest otherwise. others are directly blaming the law including some wendy's and taco bell franchises as well as land's end. the cleveland clinic says it will cut b jobs due to obama care. investors daily counted at least 351 employers. even some unions which fought hard to pass the health care law have voiced concerns. over the summer three of the largest unions sent a letter to harry reid saying obama care could encourage employers to spike part rolls. >> there is no data to support an uptick based on the impending affordable care act. >> the administration cite it is most recent report from the department of labor. it shows 27 million part-time wor workers in the economy. that's above historical norms. eight million say they want a

we aren't waving the white flag on obama care. the fight continues because the american people have only gotten a taste of just how bad this bill will be. i want people to not give up hope . there ises a lot of fighters that are main inening co. we'll continue to fight until we see the will of the people prevail. >> i think the congresswoman is onto something here. people see sticker shock and the premiums skyrocket and as more people lose their jobs, see their hours reduced. this train wreck that took place in terms of a three-year, 624 government debacle of a roll out. i think there might be a larger public outcry. do you anticipate that? >> first of all, i'm glad we are able to open the government and avoid default. we can negotiate. this is a way to keep the government open and negotiate. i'm a member of the appropriations committee. we need to look at how we spend. how efficient the government is doing. if we are able to do that we can bring down the debt that i want to see also. the other thing is health care. i vote ed for

republicans are divided on this obama care strategy. some senators, including senator buhr and senator mccain, don't agree with senator cruz and senator paul that they're going to get what they want. democrats, on the other hand, they're at odds with each other on sequester. they don't want to pass any funding bill that continues sequester. fasten your seat belts. it's going to get pretty ugly over the next week. they're nowhere close to a deal. >> you mentioned senator ted cruz. he's doing an exclusive interview on fox news sunday. he's been vocal and adamant about defunding obama care by any means necessary. what do you make of the senator's all-or-nothing approach? >> house republicans have been upset with him. they did not want to go with this strategy. they came up with an alternative strategy, but conservatives in the house said no, we're not going to go along with it. and democrats weren't going to vote for that bill, so they had to shell that and embrace the ted cruz strategy. now, they have passed a bill through the house. they

coming up, new warnings about obama care. test test >>> if you thought insurance plans with lower premium wos save you money, think again. sticker shock. nice to see you. >> hi. >> high deductibles does what? >> you get gold, silver and bronze packages. if you go with the bronze it looks really good on paper. it is very cheap for a month but very high deductibles. >> we could be talking $4,000, 5,000 a year. these are people who didn't have health insurance before. these are people thinking i can afford that $50 or $60 a month. but then the services they're paying out of pocket incredible amounts. >> and the $5,000. that can be a game changer. >> we're talking with someone who make $40,000 a year that's a big chunk when you figure that on top of the money you're paying. so it is a double sticker shock. we've heard a lot about the premium that's are happening on the front end. when you see the prices and you say this is more than i thought i would be getting. this will be hitting next year. it is how the system was designed. y

obama care is worse. even worse than hmos. >> it's a modification of the things we got. >> if you want to know what obama care will look like, look at medicaid. that's the model for obama care. medicaid pays doctors pennies. very few good top doctors participate. >> who wants to work for pennies? >> medicare is approaching that level. he's forcing us out of the programs by the crappy payment. all of the sudden they will say, doctors, you must participate or we won't license you. >> they are moving in that direction. >> they are. we have to take a break. we'll be right back. coming up next tonight on "hannity" -- >> hey, do you have that obama care? >> obama care, what's that? >> oh, it's great! [ cheers and applause ] >> it's great! >> what is it? >> i started signing up last thursday and i'm almost done. >> two of country music's biggest stars mocking the president's health care roll out at the cmas. more coming up after the break. we always want to hear from you. log onto hannitylive.foxnews.com. follow

not obama care, me care. i would take a laptop and i would sign in and become participant number one. heed lay waste to the republican party for the next 40 years. just say i will sign up for it but he won't. that tells me everything i need to know. >> bill: now the polls say that americans are holding republicans more than democrats accountable for the shutdown. are you surprised by that? >> no. that doesn't surprise me, billy. i think our time has past, man. we are like a norman rockwell litho. we live in a country where the one physical maldy not covered under obama care is busting your ass. we may not crash right now but it will crash itself down the road. i like what ted cruz said sending up a signal flare we are not part of this. checkbook stuff. have the stubs equal the checks going on. we don't do that now. that's the way the country wants it so i lock the pod face on. >> bill: were you surprised your pal from "saturday night live" rob snyder now has defected the democratic party and gone over to the

wasn't that one of the big problems with obama care? >> i have a solution, it would be personal savings accounts. >> personal responsibility would be very important here, extending entitlements, very comprehensive environments. i think after two years of this debate, or three years now. in doctor's offices across the country. we're the engines driving this and if you can't get in to see us, or we're ordering very expensive tests that are variable prices. >> the american colleges of physicians -- >> go ahead, ryan. >> i'm a business owner, i've got 120 employees. i pay for 100% of my employees insurance premiums. i've got 120 employees. about 300 on the total plan. i'm a mid year renewal, blue cross blue shield has increased our premiums 31%, sean. >> what are you going to do? >> i'm looking for options. >> they'll have a more inferior plans, they won't be able to offer as many benefits. >> at the end of the day, they're going to be in worse shape. >> all you have to look at is the white house is in panic mode right now, they know public

and if they went into obama care it was obama care like everybody else. subsidy 400% of poverty. i had no idea if they go into obama care they still get a special deal carveout by opm so it's not going to change for them? >> it's outrageous. >> it's terrible. it's appalling. there ought to be a law. we tried to pass a law. harry reid and senate democrats passed it on party line vote. senator reid walked the plank with vulnerable members in 2014. i don't know how you explain this back home if you are a democrat running for re-election. >> i understand speaker pelosi putting her people in obama care obviously with the special deal. but senator reid is not there is something not right about that same rule for congress than it is the american people. and it's not under the special interpretation under the office of personnel management. >> phony to say put in obama care prices not change. getting obama care plus. >> my first position is we should save everybody from debacle as secretary sebelius called it yesterday of obama care. it's not going to work. it's imploding in front of our

act, obama care, whatever you call it. we can all agree whether you're on the left or right. but the issue is that we have a democratic process here. we want to conserve that. the only way is not the tea party minority or people i trying to change this. it is through repeal the law, through the proper i chain of government. >> you're an attorney. i have to disagree . >> name one time we have repealed a law in our history. >> plenty of laws. >> throughout the democratic congressional process. >> you read the constitution? >> name one time, sean. >> i'm not on your show. we have a constitution. our constitution has separation of powers. the power of the purse is in whose hands? >> treasury. >> no. congress. wrong answer. >> the congress! >> the president said he won't negotiate. here we are with $17 trillion in debt. sequestration hit the military in different ways we haven't addressed. he says you won't negotiate. i run a vet group. he's using them as pawns. he 's over hyping things in the v.a. >> normandy. >> people killed

hearts and minds of obama in a care. joining us from the nation's capitol building congresswoman michele bachmann truck from minnesota. before i get to the obama careened at deep wisdom i bring to the debate. you have a little excitement down there this afternoon. tell me from your point of view what happened? >> the loud speakers went off shelter in place all likelihood a gunshot and we heard that there was a shooter. so we were told to shelter in place. and we were up on the 30 floor of cannon people went into a shelter. we were out here. a lot of cameras were here. went to the doors. clear that the police shut down independence avenue. we could see the east steps of the capitol and the south. people were all directed to come off of the can a capitol and come toward the cannon building and then before long a helicopter came over and was specifically over the western side of the capitol at that point then we started to hear the news reports sheltering in case for a while. appeared after a little bit of time there wasn't

that means we don't do things like obama care, and when we have the tool to undo obama care, in this case, the tool is not funding obama care, then it's very important for conservati conservatives to stand up. if you're going to go down, at least go down swinging. don't capitulate, give in to obama and the media, thinking they're going to come around and like you after all for being on their side on this issue. they're not, they go home at the end of the day, and their home is more big government that will burden us. >> we appreciate it. >> the governor was supposed to join us on satellite, but it then went down. so much for great technology. but it happens once in a while. >>> senator ted cruz and karl rove. we need your help, you get to select a video of the day. you get an incredible sneak peek of option number one. if you want to see more of the cell phone footage from inside the tornado, you can cast your vote now. on twitter, it's @seanhannity. [ male announcer ] don't miss red lobster's four course seafood feast. choose youroup, salad, entree, plus dessert all ju $14.99. me in

care itself say that is about obama care. it's this illegal rule by the obama administration gets around it. i think it is an illegal rule but the vitter amendment goes back to the statute and makes the chefs in washington eat their own cooking. >> the staffs of the president are still exempt. they don't have to get into the exchanges. >> not at all. the statute says members of congress and congressional staff should have to and the special rule even gets some wiggle room there and takes a lot of the pain out of that. >> they get the 72% subsidy. >> correct. that's not in the law at all. that's what this illegal rule -- >> they added it in later. >> correct. >> like the grandfathering clauses. i think this would resonate with the american people. >> we are taking it straight to the american people. citizens united is starting live by your laws.com this evening. we are really excited about this. being able to take it to the american people so they can rise up and say, look, enough is enough. congress, you can't pass a law that

is the -- obama care is the law. we will not bow to tea party anarchists who refuse to accept the supreme court ruled obama care to be constitutional. >> we are for cutting spending. rewe are for reforming entitle thes. not we what we are not for is negotiating with people with bomb strapped to their chest. >> talking points believes there should be a compromise. senator joe manchin democrat from west virginia says he would support a one-year delay for folks who do not want to be forced into the obama care arena. but the truth is, the senate and the president will never never going to do it. physical a compromise is not reached. >> break down essential services across the board a place completely out of control. there are some americans who don't care. but most of us do care. we don't want scorched earths and we don't want a government shutdown that would directly hurt many of our fellow citizens. so, it is that president obama and the republican leadership in congress must sit down and hammer out a deal. both sides

permit than signed up for obama care. it would do more to keep them warm in the winter than the obama policy will do. cope them coming. we'll take more questions and comments right after this. >> each day hear the commentary on the mike huckabee report or mikehuckabee.com. >> we are getting a barage of comments. cope them coming. if we don't get to them tonight we'll try to get to as many as possible in the coming weeks. tam rasaid bless you mike. we left liberal minnesota to tennessee. our business is thriving and blesdz with friends. this is from huckabee show. how is obama care going to be paid for. let me explain. you will be paying for. it a lot of us understand if people can't afford it or severe preexisting conditions they may need help. but people are going to be shocked to find that it is paid for by those middle class hard working people who can barely afford what they have now. we tried to tell you. and i hope people start listening now. diane said. how is the delaying obama care will help. isn't it sti sucker

premiums under obama care are about to sky rocket. coming up next, will you be able to afford the afortedable care act? stay with us. so...how'd it go? well, dad, i spent my childhood living with monks learning the art of dealmaking. you've mastered monkey-style kung fu? no. priceline is different now. you don't even have to bid. master hahn taught you all that? oh, and he says to say (translated from cantonese) "you still owe him five bucks." your accent needs a little work. for president and promise tod cut insurance premiums for families by $2500. not only are premiums not going down. health insurance companies are warning for premiumings for some are doubling under obama care. back to our 59le. congresswoman, we were given the promise of $2500 reduction and more people in the system. where the big disconnect here? >> the difference much what you say and do. you will pay more and get less. insurance premiums have gone up $3000 per family since the law was passed. they are up 40 percent and going to see another 40 percent next year.

in obama care? so if you did get hit by a duck, it is different if you are pecked by a duck -- there is a duck for medicare? are you sure it is not the duck dynasty guys -- would you say this is totally out of control? >> i have said government is totally out of control before obama care. >> no, the health care, vis a vis obama care -- all right, a tip i learned on "the view today." the tip, two minutes away. [ male announcer ] let's go places. but let's be ready. ♪ let's do our homework. ♪ let's look out for each other. let's look both ways before crossing. ♪ let's remember what's important. let's be optimistic. but just in case -- let's be ready. toyota. let's go places, safely. ♪ [ male announcer ] more room in economy plus. more comfort, more of what you need. ♪ that's... built around you friendly. ♪ bob will retire when he's 153, which would be fine if bob were a vampire. but he's not. ♪ he's an architect with two kids and a mortgage. luckily, he found someone who gave him a fresh

democrats are true believers in obama care and they realize in the base of obama care is income redistribution. obama care requires more money from young healthy people, individuals and families to pay for unhealthy people who have new coverage. if young people are not forced to participate in these new plans, obama care falls apart and it doesn't have enough money. the exchanges will not operate without the money they need. it is about income redistribution. >> the president seems to be doing that. the democrats. they are committed to obama care and they realize it is income redistribution. and they need new young people in the new policies and otherwise, it falls apart. >> it is like the democratic states, they know the president's fix would undermine the nature of the affordable care act. they are protecting the president from himself. because this was his suggestion from keeping people feeling better. >> republican insurance commissioners generally allowed customers and insurers to work it out. if individuals are happy with the old plans they can keep them. but the democrats who believe in

still defend obama care. and the president says you can keep your doctor, but can your doctor stay in business? plus, comedy icon i'm conway. >> if u yo look closely you can see harvey wetting his pants. >> ladies and gentlemen, governor mike huckabee. >> hello, everybody. a great audience. so glad to have you with us. welcome to "huck bee." from the fox news studios in new york city. it's no secret that i have major policy differences with president obama on almost everything. i believe in americsangty of ev human life. less in taxation and litigation and on and on. but president obama can't be blamed for an economy that's killing the middle class or broken promises of taxes going up for people making under $250,000 a year. or not be k able to keep your health plan or doctor. it's so bad that even our friends are spitting mad at us. it turns out it's not his fault. because he didn't know anything about it. any of it. >> it's not really something i followed closely but we don't know -- i'm not familiar with t

obama care website oh, petition per pierce morgan. >> obama care. >> have you been to the obama care website? no, i hear it is a mess. 0 america. 0 america. snshg was that an obama impersonalation. >> how can he get give more track to the website. >> more trips to mars. nmore for the jedi comboit to england or obama care. >> it is the jedi comboit. i just went to england. >> do you think more people bought the music album. or signed up for obama care. >> signed up for obama care. >> no william solid more. do you think that more people signed up for a on line jewish dating service or obama care. >> jewish dating service. >> which would you see obama on on line or jewish dating service. >> you think more people are going sky diving or signed up for obama care. >> sky do i having. >> which is less stressful. >> sky diving. >> and i would rather free fall and hope the chute opens. >> you think more people signed the petition to create a death star or seened up for obama care. >> obama care. >> death star. america wants a death star more than obama care. >> so there you have it. our thank

every senate republican voted to defund obama care and all on the same side with obama care. it has not divided us from the beginning. and we would be in favor of any other version of that, too. defund can't get democrats to vote for it. medical device tax is in there and interesting to note that 79 senators voteed to repeal the medical device tax. it would be tough for all of those democrats who earlier in the year voted to repeal the medical tax divided not to. >> and you know, this week, republicans that maybe had a different point of view about the strategy, but the strategy to defeat it, folks like you are called rhino and squish. and member of the surrender caucus and other things i can't repeat on television. so tell me, what is it that really happen and try to walk us through the procedure of the cloture vote which is a 60 vote threshold versus a simple majority that you favored and only required 51 votes to defound obama care. >> the problem with the strategy that was advocated. it been followed senate republicans would have shut down the government. polls she that 8

president obama changing his message about keeping health care plans under obama care. so is it incompetence, dishonesty, something else? will americans accept any of these new explanations? here now radio talk show host chris plant of the chris plant show and leslie marshall of the leslie marshall show.com. leslie, you're in the hot seat. the president's story keeps changing, changing, changing. what are the american people supposed to believe right now? >> i think quite frankly if the american people like and believe him, they do. if they don't, they don't. i think the problem here, gretchen, is my understanding of when the president first said that, and i'm somebody that has blue cross, okay, is that if you have a plan through your employer or a private insurance plan, if you have blue cross, you don't have to become an obama care member. you're not going to have a medicare-type plan, and that is true. blue cross may change your plan as they've changed mine to kpliep with the standards, may offer you different plans or change the name of your plan. i think part of th

in obama care. people are simply reading the bill now. the more they find out about it, theypeople, individuals, moms, dads, teenagers, children, seeing the effects in their hope budget and in their health care when it companies y comes to ob care. they're feeling it every day in their lives at home. it's not about someone spending money and giving it to them and telling them it's bad. >> protesting and understanding it. maybe like nancy pelosi. have to read it to find out exactly what's in it. >> everybody's playing catch-up. which illustrates the scary nature of this debate. we listened to the media for years about this bill and how great it was. now you listen to the people that are dealing with it, which are the real doctors, who are exasperated. to they, obama care is a fatal disease. it's like smoking. it saves money by cutting a decade off your life. nobody in the medical industry, like, sees this as a good thing. you can look at the numbers of doctors leaving now because they can't see thems

tonight, on the record investigates obama care. >> the rollout of obama care is nothing short of a debacle. >> the fact that the web site has, i think beyond glitches, whatever you want to call them is disappointing. >> we're not interested in hearing about glitches. we're interested in moving forward. >> when it comes to obama care, clearly there is an awful lot that needs to be held accountable. >> the president should man up and let us know who is responsible and who is in charge here and fire them. >> i think there certainly are some challenges. it could be smoother and easier to access. >> do you know when he first knew that there was a problem? >> well, i think it became clear fairly early on. the first pell of days. >> but not before that though? not before october 1st? >> was he being insulated from the what was he told? >> what the president made clear and is he on the record saying, this i think well ahead the launch is we expected hiccups and glitches. >> while i was optimistic that things would go smoothly. >> i think what the administration can do right now is reach out to tho

it's not just their vote on obama care. mary landrieu and all these other senators are going out there. shaheen from new hampshire are saying they are shocked that millions of people are losing health insurance. we didn't know it would happen. we were told people could keep their plans. not only did they know millions of people would lose their plans. they voted to kill legislation that would have saved their plans. you had mike enzi on. three years ago he went out on the senate floor and said millions of people will lose their plans because of the regulations. he offered a bill that would have saved their plans and every single democrat voted no. >> they accused him of fear mongering. >> exactly. >> he's been prove right. >> he has been. >> marc, thank you. >> thank you, megyn. >> there is another story tonight regarding kathleen sebelius. she returned to capitol hill to answer questions on the problems with the obama care rollout and the law itself. the president's promise that if you like your plan you can keep it. watch

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that has nothing to do with with obama care. >> wow. >> do you think if it wasn't for obama care ibm would have dropped her? ibm did this the because of banl. that's why. the private sector is responding to the government saying they will do it for you. >> medicare is not from obama care. that's not relateded. it is a different program. >> said they were dropping coverage because obama care would have -- the fact checking wasn't accurate. >> 13 people behind him touting obama care and three were signed up. >> if it wasn't for obama care ibm would be offering the plans to retirees. it was one of the great innovations that they got insurance on top of medicare. >> i want to go through it slowly. the president said people can keep the plan. 300,000 floridians, your mother, they are not the keeping the plan. president said $900 billion. the president said to save the average person would save $2500. there is an increase according to forbes of 2k4r7z 500. >> it would bring the health curve down. we haven't seen that. we'll have adverse selection so the only people who take the trouble to

who signs up matters for obama care. they are not signing up. so regardless of whether we want to argue about who lied, who told the truth, if they don't sign up. >> you know, i was young once. i wapted for the last minute to do everything. >> jean, you're a professor at children, indoctrinating the children. >> yes, very well. as someone who's sensitive to the issue about health care. i agree with you completely. the problem is whether he knew or not, he should have known. i go back to '68. >> i'm winning you over. >> let me just say federalist '68. hamm talked about good government requires good administration. fortunately for generations of young people now, we will not have health care. geraldo is right. this is a tax. it may be a tax i happen to agree with. if i don't have kids i still pay for public schools. >> if everybody -- >> you have to be honest . there are losers here. >> everything was predicated on a number of falsehoods. keeping your plan. keeping your doctor. 900 billion. now three time it is cost. why can't we as a mature natio

>> not on obama care? >> he's pet leapt and immature and he's not going to go down on this. >> we've got to figure out which republican is going to show up. is it going to be john boehner as speaker or him beholden to ted cruz and the right wing. >> you're saying the president will give in and negotiate? >> not on obama care. >> there will be no benefit of bo bama care. they're seeing the benefit of the plan. no preconditions, women can get pap smear, preventive health care. >> i'm so sick of this notion that it is good thing for young adults to be on their health insurance. >> young adults in college. >> i'm speaking, thank you. >> there's a difference. >> it is not a good thing to be on your patients health insurance as a 25-year-old. it's a good thing to be independent with a job. we are not children. >> give yourselves a big hand. you're representing america. and thank you all. that is all the time we have left this evening. as always, thank you for being with us. we're back at our new time tomorrow ni

not like with obama care. they want all the new voters. >> there is no point in having any immigration law until you control the borders first. you should support that. >> look, the obama administration sent more people back across the border than any other administration in history. >> where did you pull that out of? >> 400,000-some. >> you make it up. >> you have to deal with the immigration problem. >> does he make it up? >> there was a study from the beckel institute done a couple of days ago. >> ten seconds ago. that's where he got the information. i never understand why republicans haven't seen the opportunity with unions on immigration reform. if you talked to a lot of union workers they are angry about the bills. they feel the democratic party is in bed with the latino caucus. i always thought it would be a smart move. >> do you know where we have a bunch of voters? >> the president's numbers are down 23% with hispanics. >> they don't hate republicans. yes, they do. >> when we come back, what does larr

you're talking about obama care horror stories. what prompted me to act now was a wisconsin couple, both with cancer. the wife has stage 4 lung cancer. they got dropped, cancelled from the high risk pool which actually works and trying to get on health care.gov over 40 times. couldn't do it. now they are in contact with insurance companies without the government plan. they are finding out their exposure will double going from $20,000 a year to $40,000 a year. that's not health security. that's health insecurity. it's caused by obama care. >> these are real people. >> they are. >> they have known for three years about this. it's not only hurting the individual market, but also hurting small employers and large employers to the point forbes is estimating it will be 93 million americans. they are using government numbers to get to that figure. >> millions of americans aren't going to realize they cancelled the plan. they will have coverage under the same company. what they are not going to realize is because the mandated coverages. co

republicans are against obama care. >> you said in 2014 obama care could be a problem. if the tea party is a reason for obama care -- >> i don't think it's the reason. >> obama care is the reason for the tea party. they'll come back and see we told you. this law sucks. it's your fault. now elect more of us and change the law. >> if it's as bad as you say they can pick it up. for your sake, it's a non existent entity in american politics. >> bob, i hope you keep saying that. the more you say that, the more the tea party will gain. i don't think the tea party is weakened at all. >> you don't think they're weakened? >> they don't think they're weakened. >> you saw the president of the united states fighting for power while this group was fighting for a principal. they don't care what you think. they don't give a damn what you think. the obama care is still exposed. it's not about winning or losing. it's about shrinking government. they don't care that you think they suck. >> you have to admit they won in 2010. midterm elections in the second term president which typically

premium subsidies under obama care. and i have to say, it will get worse, not better. >> what will happen? will it collapse if the irs doesn't get the money to hire in the agency, that obama needs to implement for taxes and penalty, they won't get that money, striked premiums to the people paying higher premiums, what will happen? >> when i got here, there were 900 employees, and now there are over 2 million. plenty of employees at the irs. don't see why we should give them more money and more impose, especially your honor theunder circumstances. we have to get to the bottom of this, stop anything that is improper, wrong and maybe even illegal. the acting commissioner is a breath of fresh air. he's honest, he's making some decisions down there that have to be made, and he's standing up to the bureaucracy, and i think -- i think we can pay a great deal of attention to him. i'm pretty impressed with the guy. >> what about the story on politico, that a number of members of congress and their staffs will retire, quit by the

president obama is by no means alone in the obama care disaster. another fox poll shows republicans surged ahead of democrats on the gallup poll. just one mnt ago they were behind. pretty telling. here with reaction, fox news contributor katie pavlic and ebony williams. when a majority of americans think their president knowingly lied, knowingly deceived them, how do you recover from that? there is an issue about incompetence. that's the website rollout. when they think the president is a liar, untruthful, deceptive, what does it mean for a president that's still got three years left? >> right, sean. no questions about it. i'm not going to pretend like president obama doesn't have a serious credibility issue at this moment. deservedly so. he stood up and owned it today. this is on him. absolutely. the best thing the president can do, we have heard the term, stop the bleeding. i don't know if he can. he can take seriously the idea of letting people keep their policies -- >> he said if you like it, you can keep it, period. >> there is a new bill he h

will congress pass a delay in obama care? last night on the factor, senator marco rubio said he will introduce a bill to that effect on monday. joining us now from washington ace fox news correspondent james rosen and carl cameron. excuse me, i'm trying to get a doctor to treat me but they are all gone. so, cammeron what do you think is going to happen in the senate after marco rubio introduces the bill? >> the president's initial reaction is going to be to oppose any sort of delay some of his supporters on the hill back him up. he is going to be under pressure and it grew a lot today. senator shaheen wrote a letter to the president yesterday saying that she thinks it's time to look at extending the deadline of enrollment and perhaps putting off the individual mandate. she is running for re-election next year and considered one of the vulnerable types. west virginia democratic senator joe manchin said is he going to support some sort of a delay and may in fact come up with his own bill to delay it for a year. >> let me interr

want obama care. >> this is not a hearing. this is a battle. >> no matter what our colleagues try to say to whisk this issue away, the government was intimidating people and targeting them based upon their political views much that's not phony. that's real. >> for two months we've heard nonstop complaints against them being corrupt and incompetent. despite that, the only politically motivated act was the republicans request that the i.g. focus only on the treatment of conservative groups. for a federal employee, i prefer to stay with the current policies i'm pleased with rather than go through a change if i don't need to go through that change. >> did i not read the blog post properly that the employer mandate was delayed? >> there's what we're calling the transition relief period. in that case -- >> which means it's delayed for a year? >> yes. >> you assured us that the irs, despite the significant abuse of power we're already investigating, that the irs has never shared private taxpayer information with other federal agencie

obama care under fire. 44% of doctors in the empire state will not participate in obama care. another 33% say they may not. only 23% say they will. that will be a disaster if the numbers hold because new yorkers will have wait months in many cases to simply see a doctor. joining us now from new orleans democratic strategist james carville. first of all, i will ask the same question i asked charles. do you think president obama lied in the run up to obama care. >> i think he could have said i think the more accurate statement would have been that you will keep your coverage unless you are an individual market and have a so-called insurance policy that doesn't make the basic requirements. calling something health insurance. i can ensure you for ovarian cancer and it doesn't make it health northbound. >> i'm a guy. charles clarence page knew it was signature deal. he went out and mislead the american public and thought it would pass and thought he would get away from it because the president are lackeys. >> hearings on this very thing. investigating this and finding this is like

why now before obama care is fixed? >>> and police say a trucker was facebooking at the wheel before a deadly crash and the trucker now charged with murder. >>> hi, everyone, i'm gretchen carlson. welcome to "the real story." things getting heated at the white house where press secretary jay carney is getting grilled right now about obama care and the revelation that paper applications are processed in the same queue as people trying to enroll on the website. so here's a bit of that give and take. >> you said you can bypass the website and apply by phone or in person and it can be done in 25 minutes. but these memos say at the end of the day, we are all stuck in the same queue because they all have to go through the same portal. >> john, i get it, but the person who calls isn't the one who continues to wait after the paper application is filled. >> your mocking is entertaining, but the president said you can apply within 25 minutes, that was not true. >> wow. senior white house foreign affairs correspondent wendell goel

obama care will work. by the way, can we just show some of the happy faces on the obama care website? i love this. this is my rule, the happy faces are inversely proportional to the misery this is causing. there's not one person who happy on this website. it's on the stock photography. >> or have they signed up? >> those are actors. >> like the doctor -- >> -- it's going to work, it's going to work fine. it's like everything else. >> krugman -- -- >> bob backing off a little bit -- >> i love how you liberals and warlords -- >> who are you catching a warlord -- >> optimistic, like halloween every day for you people. everything's horrible. you know what, this is america. be optimistic. >> i don't know any leftists who are apocalyptic about the world and climate warnings and the oceans -- >> no, this is america. if we stop global warming, we're going to continue to be optimistic. >> i cannot believe -- >> -- there are 30 million people who are not ensured -- >> they're not going to be -- >> -- not worried abo

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