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that's my problem with obama care. it's washington, d.c., forcing the states to meet all of these standards and that's why we've said no, thank you, we're not going to participate with this. we're not going to be involved in the exchange. >> we haven't had that experience. we've found hhs has been very responsive and we do receive the flexibility. even if we differ in capping it and block granting it and not letting people sign up. a lot of the other governors are receiving the flexibility. but if you don't want to do it, you know, you're not going to do it. >> that's going to be our choice. we're not going to sit there and allow for washington, d.c., to make decisions for how health care is delivered in the state of texas and bankrupt our state, because we've run the numbers. we think there is a clear path towards the bankruptcy not only of our states but of this country if this goes into place the way that it's set up today. >> you should come to the national governors association meetings again. i know texas seceded

they like into obama care except people can't get into obama care. so on january 1, you're going to have potentially millions of people who once had health care and no longer have it because of obama care. >> in that sound bite you have senator jon kyl asking the president what about the individual insurance market. what about people who have plans there. you are raising the requirements. that will cost more people cancelled. you heard the president specifically say it's not true. you can keep your acme plan if you like it. that is not true. mark, thank you. >> thank you. >> we have much more including this. in a "the kelly file" exclusive we sat down with a group of people from a growing group of americans losing their plans and doctors. we don't the know all of the reasons yet. we know the patients and figs believe it is due to obama care and they are not happy. >> i don't are want to change my doctor or go to another office. i'm happy. >> we got a letter in the mail. a cold letter. >> you get a letter in the mail? stating that the doctor is no lon

leave it about killing obama care? >> i believe that's the right policy. we have two opportunities to do it. i think frankly that the president, when the american people make it clear over the next several weeks, he will step forward and at least delay this law. listen, this president is known for drawing lines he doesn't keep. i think there's a potential he won't keep this one. >> do you ever gamble privately? >> i really don't -- i really don't like gambling. >> at the frack or anything. i'm available if you want to call me afterwards. i'm ready. the president won't give up on anything. what do you think of the odds if you want to give bookie advice to somebody here. what are the odds that the president of the united states will give up on the one sure thing that will get him in the history books, affordable health to people waiting in the emergency room right now. >> there's not a person in the country except for bheem are drinking this tea party tea who believes the president is going to walk away from obama care.

wasn't that one of the big problems with obama care? >> i have a solution, it would be personal savings accounts. >> personal responsibility would be very important here, extending entitlements, very comprehensive environments. i think after two years of this debate, or three years now. in doctor's offices across the country. we're the engines driving this and if you can't get in to see us, or we're ordering very expensive tests that are variable prices. >> the american colleges of physicians -- >> go ahead, ryan. >> i'm a business owner, i've got 120 employees. i pay for 100% of my employees insurance premiums. i've got 120 employees. about 300 on the total plan. i'm a mid year renewal, blue cross blue shield has increased our premiums 31%, sean. >> what are you going to do? >> i'm looking for options. >> they'll have a more inferior plans, they won't be able to offer as many benefits. >> at the end of the day, they're going to be in worse shape. >> all you have to look at is the white house is in panic mode right now, they know public

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no such thing as an obama care draft card. there's not even an obama care card. there's no card, no paper at all. there is nothing to burn. so freedom works has had to make their own draft card. you print it out on the website and burn it yourself. so take a stand, good american by burning your freedom works provided obama care draft card that doesn't draft you to do anything. >> burning the card is a symbol, of course, because there's no card yet. actually freedom works is going to design the obama care card ourselves, put that online, we're going to share it with people in the hopes they will burn it, tear it up mark on it, send it to the irs or congressman. >> you make your own card to burn. the argument freedom works is making, people should refuse to be part of obama care. don't take free government health insurance if it is offered to you. say no. and if you say no and you get sick or get hit by a bus or you light yourself on fire while burning your self-printed obama care draft card, well, that is on you. this is a weird thing that's happened to the campai

i've had to sit here through obama care. thank you so much. even though you're a turkey, you've given me a lot. rand paul, you're a smart guy, but you've got to learn not to borrow people's words. you've got good words yourself. i give credit to rand paul for one thing. he went to howard university, all you black university. very few republicans did it. >> he wasn't the turkey that day. >> that was the biggest turkey of the year? >> that was nice of you bob. >> they're going to give you a run for your money. >> i told you i endorsed teddy for president. >> did you have anyone on the runner up list? >> one personal associated with the five. i won't say who it was. >> wow. like at this table? >> god no. >> all right. >> what about kim kardashian? >> she's a waste of time. she's not a turkey, she's a dog. kanye east and that dumb south baby of theirs. whatever it is. come on. i'm not even sure it's their baby any way. >> bob is kidding. >> justlike thanksgiving dinner with your family. >> with uncle bob. this is the next topic we're going to brin

opposition to obama care. john mccain and all the other people in the republican party in the house and in the senate, fought tooth and and nail in 2009. i don't know where ted cruz was or what he was doing. he arrived at the party late. if you are going to cast aspersions on the people who fought every stretch the way. every twist and turn of this obama care along the way, you ought to be a little bit humble about it and at least recognize their honesty and sincerity in a way that he did not. >> bret: while the tactics may be be a cul-de-sac the emotion and the spirit in the conservative side was clearly ig nighted by what wasn't a filibuster. mara, conservatives were fired up. >> there is no doubt about it he would say although we have had plenty of divisions inside the republican party. maybe this is going to be a civil war. battlefield this table. yeah, the tea party, every movement group is with ted cruz. this was an open, bitter split with the main string establishment wing of the republican party. i wan

so what about obama care? >> i'll be the first to tell you that the website launch was rockier than we would have liked. >> can hhs secretary kathleen sebelius hold on to her job as obama care stumbles out of the gate? you heard what ted cruz said about that. more with our panel up next. ♪ (train horn) vo: wherever our trains go, the economy comes to life. norfolk southern. one line, infinite possibilities. they're the days to take care of business.. when possibilities become reality. with centurylink as your trusted partner, our visionary cloud infrastructure and global broadband network free you to focus on what matters. with custom communications solutions and responsive, dedicated support, we constantly evolve to meet your needs. every day of the week. centurylink® your link to what's next. you really love, what would you do?" ♪ [ woman ] i'd be a writer. [ man ] i'd be a baker. [ woman ] i wanna be a pie maker. [ man ] i wanna be a pilot. [ woman ] i'd be an architect. what if i told you someone coul

obama using obama care?" adding "maybe he's trying to logon or call right now." in response, i christened today national troll day. my tweet didn't escape the eye of photo-shopper known as dart. while some work in oils or water colors, he works in photo-shops. they're always hilarious. he took the poster from the horror film "troll" and gave it a new leading man in congressman radle. it's not first time he's delivered the goods for "all in." during the shutdown, i asked him, what does $20 million lit on fire look like? and this was born. some artist at the sistine chapel, he has ted cruz with a flaming pile of cash. the second awesomest thing on the internet, a football twofer. first, the ohio state marching band performed a tribute to michael jackson this weekend, and while it was really cool, the buckeye band actually brought a gigantic moon-walking king of pop to life on the field. here's the video of the choreographed routine sped up to give you a full sense of how well done the whole thing was. and while

the obama care fixer is moving on up. the hhs adviser leaving his post for another role in this administration and word that he will be replaced by former microsoft exec. as the president meets with the problems plaguing healthcare.gov once and for all. >> great question why didn't they have more of these meetings before the october 1st deadline before they got the advice from council? these are folks who are constantly touted for their ability to adapt and use the internet. there is no meeting like this one about capacity about health care.gov with these thinkers and now you have jay carney at the podium today saying here is this executive who has vast experience in dealing with complext problco complex clemco comproblems. >> we would have much preferred a move successful launch and you know, if that could have been effected by having somebody in this position in the past absolutely we should have had somebody in this potion ssessio the past. mitch mcconnell saying they are not saying why they didn't do it at the beginni

it is a probl obama care. it is core material and facts of obama care that youth are rejecting. no amount of pr will change what has been the first impression of obama care. the youth realizes it costs to which and they don't need it. pay the $95 fine to get out of the obligation and you get sick you can sign up without penalty. the whole scheme is you need volume of young people to pay for those who need care now. >> chris, one thing that every young person in the country knows about obama care is that it is a lousy website. that is a union versal truism. but beyond that what is in it for 20-year-olds to sign up? >> we agree that the role is not good and hurt the perception of obama care. that is a fact. in terms of what is in it. you are talking about preventive care and caps if you get really sick. >> i think for catastrophic illness everybody needs insurance. but brad's point, if you are well and a healthy 20 something-year-old why go through the rigamarole? >> preventive care and birth control and other types of assistance, there is a lot of elements to it allow you to basi

>> i'm not clear as to who wrote that. >> check out obama care contractor admitting attempts his obama care account failed. >> did you personally try to get on the system? >> yes, i did. >> for what state? >> i put in texas. >> is that where you're from? >> i'm not. i was testing the system. >> did it work? >> well, i logged on to create an account, was able to do so. i just never received the confirmation e-mail. >> so it didn't work? >> didn't work. >> brutal. if you watch those hearings. dana goldburg explained it crabs trying to crawl out of a bucket. it says when one tried to crawl, the other ones pull you down. it was tough to watch. >> i always feel bad for people. that guy is being honest. he tried and it didn't work. the look on her face to congressman barton. that's a priceless look. she was probably thinking, who the heck are you? i think they're asking a decent question, the one about the privacy piece. it's the next big shoe that's going to drop that people realize they don't want to put in information because they're not sure that they're going to get anything back. they'

coming up, why the success of obama care could hinge on this group. we're back in two minutes. >>> getting health insurance on euro yourer your own is not cheap or easy, but the aim of the affordable care act is to help you shop and compare. let's get started. we'll see what happens. first, we put in the number of people in your household. let's say this a family of four. type in four here. household income. the average in the bay area is about $70,000. and then the zip code. let's say this family is from santa clara county. then we type in the enrollee information. the age of each adult. how about 40 and 42. then the number of dependents, age 18 and under. two kids. total people covered, four. then we see my options. the next page that comes up, like a preview page. over view preview page with four options. including your best two options. you have to close out this page to see details of your options. you have two plans that are available that are best for you. the bronze 60 plan. and your premium can be as low as $279. but if you view the details o

obama using obama care?" adding "maybe he's trying to logon or call right now." in response, i christened today national troll day. my tweet didn't escape the eye of photo-shopper known as dart. while some work in oils or water colors, he works in photo-shops. they're always hilarious. he took the poster from the horror film "troll" and gave it a new leading man in congressman radle. it's not first time he's delivered the goods for "all in." during the shutdown, i asked him, what does $20 million lit on fire look like? and this was born. some artist at the sistine chapel, he has ted cruz with a flaming pile of cash. the second awesomest thing on the internet, a football twofer. first, the ohio state marching band performed a tribute to michael jackson this weekend, and while it was really cool, the buckeye band actually brought a gigantic moon-walking king of pop to life on the field. here's the video of the choreographeroutine sped up to give you a full sense of how well done the whole thing was. and while t

care" el 1 de enero tienen hasta, sitio web en español para la inscripción del "obama care" continúa con problemas aquí tenemos el informe de lourdes . >> este fin de semana debuto la versión en español del "obama care" . >> no entramos a los precios de los planes y terminar aplicaciones . >> no pueden inscribir a nadie en el sitio web en español para la inscripción del "obama care"? . >_> no solo una cuenta . >> para tener beneficios y estar asegurado hay que c0ompletar la totalidad . >> la página en inglés ahora esta más accesibe pero no resuelve el problema para quienes solo hablan español . >> cuándo manden le salen planes depende de nosotros ve y tenemos muchos clientes también . >> tengo como dos meses que vengo . >> Ángel esta frustrado se trata de inscribir lo guian hasta que ? . >> es error . >> esto para porque no registro el correo electrónico de caja solo le quedo llamar a la línea de teléfono gratuita . >> se que tienen problemas y no son los únicos por el error del sitio , . >> comenzó solución . >> quienres quieren beneficiarse tienen úpreocupación

no one is making everyone get obama care health insurance. only about 15 million people will get obama care health insurance. no one in government was exempted from obama care because no one in government was supposed to be included in obama care because people in government already have health insurance. employer provided health insurance. obama care is about helping people get insurance who do not already have it. obama care is designed to have no effect on people who already have health insurance like chief justice john roberts. but asking rand paul to understand or add and or admit any of that is asking way too much. >> up next, republicans are now so afraid of ted cruz that they are actually sending opposition research against him to fox news. you work. and you want to get an mba. but going back to school is hard... because you work. now, capella university offers a revolutionary new way to get your degree. it's called flexpath and it's the most direct path, leveraging what you've learned on the job and focusing on what you need to know

it turns out the irs official that oversaw the part is now in charge of obama care office. you kent make this stuff up. >> democrats said joseph graham didn't find out until six months after ingram was a signed to the different division. >> you are satisfied with miss ingram in charge of the irs responsibilities? >> i heard show has a high degree of professionalism and not in a position of responsibility over the actions. >> the outgoing irs acting commissioner stephen miller pushed out because of the scandal called ingram a superb sufficiently service. show will provide the same horrendous customer service implementing obama care as she did managing the tax exempt office. ntea party express chairman amy crammer said it is a symptom of a larger issue. great to have you here. >> letty talk about what is at play. i know the tea party groups are planning to sue the government. are you going to join them? >> we are not. we were not targeted. but this is going on for a long time and i am glad it has come to light and the american people see what is going on. and i don't think co

tonight, on the record investigates obama care. >> the rollout of obama care is nothing short of a debacle. >> the fact that the web site has, i think beyond glitches, whatever you want to call them is disappointing. >> we're not interested in hearing about glitches. we're interested in moving forward. >> when it comes to obama care, clearly there is an awful lot that needs to be held accountable. >> the president should man up and let us know who is responsible and who is in charge here and fire them. >> i think there certainly are some challenges. it could be smoother and easier to access. >> do you know when he first knew that there was a problem? >> well, i think it became clear fairly early on. the first pell of days. >> but not before that though? not before october 1st? >> was he being insulated from the what was he told? >> what the president made clear and is he on the record saying, this i think well ahead the launch is we expected hiccups and glitches. >> while i was optimistic that things would go smoothly. >> i think what the administration can do right now is reach out to tho

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obama care is mandatory spending. it's going on. >> so then why not vote on a full -- just like full cr if you don't care about obama care anymore? >> good question. if this is not about obama care anymore, which is exactly what you just said, if it's just about how bad it is for all these other parts of the government to be shut down, why not just open up the government again? if it's not about obama care and you don't want the government to be shut down and it's terrible that the government is shut down, why don't you just stop shutting down the government? you could do that. it would be no problem. listen to how he answers that question from the npr reporter. this is amazing. listen to this. >> so then why not vote on a full -- just like full cr if you don't care about obama care anymore? >> why not vote on -- on a full cr? >> yeah. just a full cr! if obama care isn't the issue anymore. >> twofold. one is that when you start to look -- they say clean cr, that translates into truly a blank check, and so obama care i

premiums under obama care are about to sky rocket. coming up next, will you be able to afford the afortedable care act? stay with us. so...how'd it go? well, dad, i spent my childhood living with monks learning the art of dealmaking. you've mastered monkey-style kung fu? no. priceline is different now. you don't even have to bid. master hahn taught you all that? oh, and he says to say (translated from cantonese) "you still owe him five bucks." your accent needs a little work. for president and promise tod cut insurance premiums for families by $2500. not only are premiums not going down. health insurance companies are warning for premiumings for some are doubling under obama care. back to our 59le. congresswoman, we were given the promise of $2500 reduction and more people in the system. where the big disconnect here? >> the difference much what you say and do. you will pay more and get less. insurance premiums have gone up $3000 per family since the law was passed. they are up 40 percent and going to see another 40 percent next year.

the rollout of obama care. we are hearing from kathleen sebelius, and she admits there were concerned in the lead up to the launch. >> the president say that he was angry about this. do you know when he first knew that there was a problem? >> well, i think it became clear fairly early on. the first couple days. >> not before that, though? not before october 1st, there was no concern at the white house or at hhs? >> i think we talked about having testing going forward. there were certainly challenges that could be smoother and it could be easier to access and that's what we are working on. >> sebelius will testify before congress next week, and in the meantime the president has appointed jeff zink. >>> the white house says there is a white gap between u.s. assessments of casualties and nongovernment reports. >> to the extent these reports claim that the u.s. has acted concary to enter law, i would disagree. we are choosing the course of action least likely to the result in the loss of life. >>> a strike in pakis

if president obama agrees to any cut in the affordable care act, he will be rebuked as no president has before. the irony is that those on the right are asking him to end this political life by his own hand. i don't believe they've figured out the end game of what they have done here. the only thing we can predict is that the government will be shut down on monday night at midnight. that will not be the end of it, but the beginning of it. an episode in american history that will end the way -- david gregory is the moderator of meet the press. peter baker with "the new york times." i'm not optimistic. with fewer than four days to go until a government shutdown, the senate passed a spending bill restoring funding for the affordable care act. the bill passed on a strictly party line vote. before that happened, the senate ended that debate. ted cruz has been lobbying to reject it. in the end 79 senators said to vote for cloture. >> let's watch. >>> today, unfortunately, the united states senate, the democrat-led senate, refused to listen to the american people. but this process is not over.

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. >>> the budget battle, government shutdown, and the troubles obama care roll out, all keeping the spotlight on the president's domestic agenda, and now new problems popping up on the foreign policy front with growing concerns among world leaders like germany's angela merkel about reports the u.s. wire tapped her cell phone. now, germany's interior minister is demanding answers. a good sunday morning to you. welcome to america's news headquarters. >> the new fallout from the nsa fine scandal taking center stage on the foreign policy front. peter is live with more on this story. >> and we saw hundreds of americans from across the political spectrum march through the streets of d.c. yesterday, trying to make enough noise outside the capitol to convince congress to pass some legislation that would ban nsa mass surveillance programs, but you fast forward to this morning, the chairman of the house homeland subcommittee on counterintelligent peter king, said it's not smart to address these data collection systems in public because we don't want the enemy to learn too much. we also heard from anoth

because of obama care. so the real challenge that we see today is we need to come back to a free market solution, and make sure that people have greater access to health care. one of the ways we do that is look at alternatives to reduce the price of health insurance. i would love to have this debate about providing american people with a free market solution to lower the prices, create greater access, and see what can happen. >> we tried that before the affordable care act. people lost their insurance, and getting less and less. the basic principles of obama care are sound. i don't think you want to repeal the fact that you have parents who keep their adult children on their policies until 26, or do you want to take away from the seniors the additional benefits we've given them in filling in coverage cap, the so-called doughnut hole? or do we want to go back where insurance companies can pup preexisting conditions or caps? the fundamentals of the exchanges are there. we have more companies that have signed

this is what obama care is. you have insurance you like it and it gets taken away from you. >> read the pertinent parts. >> it says your existing policy will end be placed with a new policy and premium rates this is because of healthcare reform called the affordable care act. >> in fact the latest estimates show up to 80 percent of people who purchase their own insurance they lose coverage because of obama care. >> while you were sleeping blinding dust storm leaves to a massive pileup that left three people dead and dozens injured. this happened on an interstate 60 miles south of phoenix. look at this mess. 19 people including cars, trucks even a motor home were caught up in the mayhem. >> this is a chain reaction. that last truck was driving pretty fast. he just pushed everybody over into me on the side of the road. car after car truck after truck. boom, boom, boom. >> crews are cleaned up the scene and reopened all of the lanes of the highway. >> now to the latest development in one family's search for answers

and of obama care. do you think the bill will pass the house tonight in. >> i think with speaker boehner endorsing it in the republican conference, it probably will pass. but it will be appear a victory. this isn't the end of the fourth quarter. this is maybe the end of the second quarter. we're borrowing too much money. we need to structurally reform the government and entitlements. and what this is is a punt, as you pointed out. keeping the government open until the middle of january, and borrowing another $200 billion that keeps us until the early february. this is just halftime. >> did john boehner make a mistake endorsing it? who knows what would have happened in the markets. we know there is enough money to pay everything for some more time. so you know, october 17th. could you argue whether it is a drop dead date or not. did he make the mistake endorsing this deal today? >> well, i think the speaker made a judgment call. and it was kind of a 50/50 judgment on his part. he decided the risk wasn't

defund obama care. >> right. >> that's not shutting down obama care. >> but the senate won't pass that, the president woen sign it. it will be profoundly unpopular. if you delay the subsidies for a year, then the real cost of obama care will come out because the premiums will go up, people will be insulated from the subsidies and there will be a lot of fraud. what the irs has done, what they've done, we're not going to verify your income or eligibility. >> if this takes hold, name me a big government program that has ever been given and taken away. >> that's why you got to delay the subsidies. >> how many times can we allow this president to grab more power than the constitution allows? congress has the responsibility. to uphold and defend the constitution. they have a responsibility to use that dee funding power to stop this president from violating the law. >> the more americans know about this law, the less they like it. our job is to go out and make sure that at the grassroots, we can be enroll america, the obama administration, all the community organizers, open enrollment starts.

obama care is settled law of the land. it is happening. the notion that somehow the white house is going to do deal making onset ld law of the land recently upheld by the supreme court and litigated in the 2012 presidential race and we know how that turned out, is ludicrous. the idea that there's going to be a deal on sequestration when half of the far right plank thinks that sequestration has been a great thing is also crazy. i don't see where the bargaining happens here. >> well, there's going to be a bargain, a budget deal. we've got to figure out on a continuing resolution, we've got to figure out entitlements. at some point in time, worrying about getting tax reform, we need to fix this government. i think at the end of the day when you have this debt limit fight. it will be a fight. you were in the house of representatives. you know how hard it is to pass any debt limit extension in the house of representatives. i think he's got to cobble together the votes and that requires a bigger deal, there'll be a bigger deal. that being said,

not just over broken obama care promises, but over obama care forcing people to buy coverage they don't need, like maternity care. well, man up, says a top democrat in the senate. >> somebody said, well, gee, now i've got -- i have to take this policy that covers maternity care. but my wife and i aren't having any more children. and i got to thinking about that. i thought, well, you know what? maybe because my wife and i don't have any more children, and they're grown up, maybe i shouldn't have to pay property taxes to pay for my local schools. we're better than that in this country. 're talking about being a part of our siety. same way with health care. it is a value system. >>o what do you think? is he right? buying medical care y don't need is part of america's value system? hi, everyone. i'm brenda buttner. this is "bulls and bears." d here they are, the bulls and bears this week. gary b. smith, tracy byrnes, jonas max ferris, john layfield, and david mercer. john, paying for maternity care or other coverage you don't need is all part of america's value system? >> not part of the am

no such thing as an obama care draft card. there's not even an obama care card. there's no card, no paper at all. there is nothing to burn. so freedom works has had to make their own draft card. you print it out on the website and burn it yourself. so take a stand, good american, by burning your freedom works provided obama care draft card that doesn't draft you to do anything. >> burning the card is a symbol, of course, because there's no card yet. actually freedom works is going to design the obama care card ourselves, put that online, we're going to share it with people in the hopes they will burn it, tear it up, mark on it, send it to the irs or congressman. >> you make your own card to burn. the argument freedom works is making, people should refuse to be part of obama care. don't take free government health insurance if it is offered to you. say no. and if you say no and you get sick or get hit by a bus or you light yourself on fire while burning your self-printed obama care draft card, well, that is on you. this is a weird thing that's happened to the camp

>> under obama care men are covered when they give birth. it's a day whatever of whatever. >> a congresswoman challenged kathleen about coverage you might not need like paternity coverage for males. >> the policy covers family. men do need maternity coverage for their spouses and families, yes. >> single male age 32 does not need maternity coverage. to the best of your knowledge has a man ever delivered a baby. >> yes. >> they're called ob/gyns. six people have enrolled on the sixth day. speaking of good intentions. >> faster. >> yeah. >> i didn't see that coming. >> neither did i. i thought they were boing to make love. you were an actor or are an actor on general hospital. that kind of makes you an expert on obama care. >> and on many thing, doesn't it. >> what do you say about the fact they only signed up six people and you are eligible for maternity leave, care. >> i want to know if i'm going to get maternity leave at work. this is the most transparent administration in history. i feel like this is one more example of what a debacle is.