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My perception spanish people: As i sat here listening to this man play the harp his wife with her girl came along they said down and they were talking to him is it really interesting again my perception i was really glad that this would happen allowed me to stay a little bit longer listen to him and to see this that here is this man who plays and his wife comes and talk to him he's not just a beggar hanging around he's got a family's got a life and forget about people that all people have life going on and i was really pleased that this would happen if it says she came along just at that time she also has an address on you know it's a little bit different than the other one.
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- As i wrote in the fray fire my trip to the andes was kind of to fill in some gaps in my education and it's hard to do sometimes to look at a country or a continent such as south america with all this going on all the way here about the papers and all the issues that were concerned about with latin america it's kind of hard sometimes to go and just appreciate a culture without all these other things coming in today all i just really wish that whatever. We'll have to let that slide today not demeaning it or saying it's not important very important but we want to come put that out of the way right now i'm just going to take today we're not really going to look at that issue we're going to try to look at the culture in the uniqueness of the indian culture. We're going to have a few younger people join in and blasting music as we go along to so we have slides we'll have a little things on with it this is starting out. What we've heard about el nino the current that runs through there in a lot of things to take place so far the andes is really dry. just never melt. Set two different kind of andy and chains. This is not empty el monte mountain mountain of the sun. There's ncle bonnie in the background again looking over the paws and it's kind of like. I stayed up in the small indian hotel up an indian quarter and you can see looking down the street towards the center counted it goes about blocking just dropped right off and kept going straight you could walk right on top of the tower there in the church so it really drops quickly it was six blocks up the still there. Phillipa soo. A city that's about a million people and it's 85% the population 85% indian people now. And there is a division there though between the kazi. The old standards of who gets to go where like the. European people live down in the bottom of the city which is contrary to most schemes that you have of the city cuz it's better climate down there and you don't have to climb around the indians live up on the edges of the city or up the hill just park was a kind of unique part of its real park it was situated on the border between the european section in the indian section though and it's right in front of city hall. And so this is the distinction. Lowest elevation park that's open kind of an indian park or the highest elevation part that the european park most of the higher parts are for indians in the lower parts are for the europeans they kind of set it up that way. This is right on the border. And this is what i went down to see this is the gateway of the sun and this was built somewhere around 1 to 380 somewhere that area. And this is supposedly what started this culture called to anaco this is a side of to anaco this culture was supposed to have started. The kind of the organization of the andes unlike it has never been before. And they're not really sure what all this is about they call this the gateway of the sun. But the figure is not really a son figure it's an old god that they took from another culture the sabine culture that's called a staff god. Miss holden to staff sunnyside, god it was just a common local god that people kind of picked up on and so they had this called gateway was done now and no one really knows for sure. Who this guy is. The figures on the side i'll show you a little bit better description of them in the next five or so it's a calendar it's supposed to figure now it's a calendar on cycles of they don't know what. But usually these are working around when our new rulers going to come in or something's going to happen with their kingdom. So this is a calendar and they don't really know exactly again what this was all about but it's. Most famous thing in bolivia as far as the motifs and things are spread all through the andes. No one knows what it's all about this is a animal teeth that they used in oblivion some of their modern buildings. Using the god the son and they put snake they have snakes. And of all around is decoration. That's another very common thing from this era. These are. The runners supposed to the culture was organized they don't know how they organized that they don't know what happened because all there's no writing back then and everything's been destroyed and could give them any idea and the incas came along without writing and the incas rewrote history when they came along. Starting in the 1200s with more than 1,400 completely rewrote history. And they had no writing either so we just changed the oral tradition so lot of this is lost. But the figure on the far left is a condor. Supposed to be a messenger to condor in the next one is a man and that's the route runner and these runners suppose he went around to annotto carry messages and things and the incas use the same system when they finally got their empire together 700 years later. So that they are vestiges of the incan empire starting already way back now from these times. This right here is this is the actual stout right there. I think you see a lot of these kind of have some similarities. Betty afterwards and go get a base i brought to this previous to this culture even that really looks aspenk12 so. This is the actual site of tiahuanaco it's not been restored much at all. Does the swimming pool like place was a temple. And it was covered over in some respects they don't know really how it's how it looked and some people have made some very portents and reconstruction of this site so it's not all exactly as it should be archaeologist haven't been able to find enough to put it together the gateway the sun was just dug out of the ground in 1906. Unearth that 1906 so it hasn't been standing around as a shrine for all those years a lot this is just been excavated recently. Just beginning to become national park now but it's taking a long time to really good together. It looks like. 1 long 70 mile. Prairie life. That's that's the biggest coming next that's the big thing this is looking from down in the swimming pool area which was the temple and the figures the little kids all around the side of it we're supposed to be representing tribes it would come into this area and give tribute as so that's they know that there was some sort of organization into a place. The big stone in the back you can see a big doorway on soil close above that that's the thing that they really are concerned about because it's just the stone is so large and they had to like bring at 6. Some some places six kilometers from where they cut at. Overland they had no animals that could carry these things because the alpaca and llama are very strong little tiny legs they can't cure anything or pull anyting human power is nothing. But maybe ropes and that they made out of divisor and themselves. This is a tremendous organization that took place to bring us together. That's gives him an idea that there was a real organization. Cuz of the immensity of this. They figured that was real that's the real construction as it should be. Got it was on earth but it was put together to the archaeologists are happy. With speculation that extraterrestrials came here and they get into the same as this. They can't let me look at these these are very large and. Play policies with sand they didn't have any tools backed into the gorilla is promising because they hadn't really gotten to smell things yet. The english pick us up and they brought people from tiahuanaco this area the aymara people the bolivian people to the incan empire and kind of revived the stone polishing that they had some of these stones are absolutely glass smoothie just wouldn't believe how smooth it could be with no tools. The incas picked us up. 700 years later and brought this a revivalist stone polishing. Did the same thing they put their emphasis on the important parts of it and then the rest of it they kind of did whatever they needed to do to get the building together the craftspeople in the artist.. This is a bad back then against the staff god holding two things they don't know really what this was the spanish came and the people were still kind of giving veneration to this one and the spanish wherever they would go they would take the incan sites or the older sites and put a little temple up there or a crucifix so that was sanctified then when the people worship. And he has will tattoo on his right shoulder so he's been sanctified so this guy's okay. They don't know who it is but what is all about no records. This is another one. Yeah. And so they feel that they really didn't. Find all this they knew of it but they really didn't know exactly what was there. So it just has been covered over as civilizations tend to have happened to them now they go out of style people move on.. There were no cities in southern peru for 700 years will farming areas but no cities for 700 years until the angle came along. Do i say this again they look at this one say this would be an extraterrestrial this is kind of unique thing it was a big hire people with meat and they would have someone speak and then the lower-caste people have to stay outside and this rock is amazing because it has like a nautilus shape on the other side until the people in this side of the building will speak it will go through that little hole in will amplify outside i was inside speaking these guys. His good lady that day. Not during the day was a strange lighting mixtape this is from t guanaco kind of looking back towards la paz and see into that lonnie in the background there so you can idea. It's it's the snow and the rain that comes from the snow since this is an area where you would get pregnant red ring federal agriculture. About leaven 11002 murano. This is going across lake titicaca. I'm from bolivia across the lake on a boat. The other side with rising out across and legs over there. The spanish build a little city they're called. Cochabamba. And. The spanish when they came to the new world had just driven the moslems on spain the moslems in the jews and they came to the new world to start all over and kind of a find a new place but they brought so much of the islamic motif with him and they're building this this place is just from a lock over somewhere which it's amazing with the vehicle is that they brought with them. And so this is star of the origin of the agriculture system that the incas use and jenny's going to tell us a little bit about. Has finally developed. You see all right up there. Create event agriculture what are the greatest contributions come from the cultivation of the potato is drawing techniques for preserving potato head certain altitude in the end every night and it's warm and sunny in sulphur. Vanderbilt japan for agriculture again. You can see a line going across the middle kind of their tacit irrigation canal and the incas were really great at moving water and they could just irrigate every australia valley. Later let's just beautiful from new edition. Yeah they have the wither and the summer seasons are. So it's just more sunwest on luca colder. And some rain but not not heavy rain. This area was the arrow. The women all have different hats on and these hats were modeled after the spanish riding women's at they were so you'll see like five or six different styles but they pick them up in the spanish riding women. These people were real billing skirts with five or six skirts on and they also pick that up from the spanish riding women when they came from the medical is pleased to wear when they were riding. A lot of styles today are. Drive someone from the spanish and then modified. It's a valley between. Lake titicaca and cusco is going on the train crossing. Remoteness but i heard that there's a developer folks want to get in on the 1st and developing and pillow condo supermarket up there. And the the incas latest on the shape of a puma. And the spanish came in and ate like the grid kind of shape so they put the cathedral down in the bottom part of the picture you see there and then laid everything out from plaza all the cities are no classes and then always b going out. But the incas did not believe in time as being important they believe in spatial relationships is important so everything they did was laying things out. In a space of relationship to the stars and to the sun everything is laid out that way so time temporal things meant nothing to them life and death was nothing it was how you arrange things on earth to reflect. The natural elements and to kind of partying with a natural element so everything to them was laying things out spatially. So in spanish came and seen the city just got through their worldwide wack finished enough as it was but just totally reorienting everything. Bojangles use that spanish brought the tiles so everything's the same. And the. The music we hear today is. The indian music is kind of a through several generations as change but the incas used to have people marching these the march alot and they had a steady kind of temple. Back then and ruth and georgia going to. Play a little bit of a steady tempo did the incas originally using their music. Video of the incas orientation oliver building they put so much work into the looks of it and appeal of their back on this. Reply before you can see the black star just cut their inventive and then they have invitations around the edges and this would give it a different kind of effect and so this is very important for them to spend a lot of time doing this when they wanted for show. And then this was one of the remains of the temple of the sun. And this is where the gold was and this rounded part there was a part of the foundation of the temple of the sun. Most of the buildings in because they were having trouble dealing structurally with things kind of collapsing so they give you a little bit more tension so things wouldn't fall out as quickly but the earthquake this. The temple of the sun was here the spanish took a lot of it and cut it up. Field other things but they left the foundation cuz the foundation was so good but they built their church on it. The church of santo domingo. 1956 there was an earthquake. And santo domingo just demolished but the incan foundation was left intact then people decided that well the incan foundation is more important than the church of sons of the mango so we want to rebuild the church but we want to be seen until they opened up a lot of the areas where the incan foundation was and used it and the building of the church. So this is the part. The little builder games of a sample of gold now i have a couple of guests today francisco pizarro was here the last of the incas. I don't believe you can do what you say you don't have this my phone even though you are alpacas in the garden of solid gold trees and flowers. Lincoln foundation in comparison to the new modern high-tech. Work that they do. This was a temple or house it was built in honor of serpents and had servants carved into stone all around the pc it's a little bit of work together with vivint use mortars to all these are put together without mortar and again after all these things i just haven't moved the they like to choose different shape so everything wasn't uniform they like to kind of a slow two things will use different shapes to do it kind of shimmer and kind of flow. Which were they. Some cultures did your painting stuff at work but the incas were very simple and they would put a band of gold or something on a building but generally steer they like the sun the shadows to do the coloring for them. So there was no painting originally on that these painted afterwards because they what happened. That temple of a surface which is spanish had trouble with the serpent's on there they use that you can see here the doorway and they changed it a man built his to use it as a house and then he kind of went out of favor and then it turned into a convent but when the man owns it he put he can't seem to other two mermaids up above the doorway there and put mermaids on the kind of land of the snakes and with the mermaids that can affect rather than religious veneration of snakes. Dara. Pre-cana players and. As i was traveling their music was awesome interest to mine. But also the music and relationships with people and often in these places you can see people playing the cane or playing the harp. And. Just like you just gave them money because they were beggars but i had read a couple books and one of them talk about the experiences of. People who play for money and they feel that they are musicians and they are artists and they spend yours address and it just so happens that they choose to play their music even though the music would make the money so people look them as beggars it so it changed my way of thinking a little bit as i was coming to kuzco. i want to see when i get there or these people are playing if i can appreciate their music and not just give them money because they're bigger. And so i came upon this man the threat read was about a heart player blind harp player than cusco it was a blind harp player. And. George and ruth have rufus. I want to give you a difference in the melodies that they would play. They they talk about two different kinds of melodies what is he get robbie which is the deep soulful andean. Music and the other one is the wino which is a more of a high-paced dancing light music so the beggar's play the utah be when they really want to play their own music and they don't care if anyone gives them money they play the wino when they want to attract a crowd and just have people throw money in those were two parts of el condor pasa 1. As i sat here listening to this man play the harp his wife with her girl came along they said down and they were talking to him is it really interesting again my perception i was really glad that this would happen allowed me to stay a little bit longer listen to him and to see this that here is this man who plays and his wife comes and talk to him he's not just a beggar hanging around he's got a family's got a life and forget about people that all people have life going on and i was really pleased that this would happen if it says she came along just at that time she also has an address on you know it's a little bit different than the other one. Spanish k one of the things i did bring that the moslems have brought to spain was the guitar and so the incas had no string instruments all they had were wind instruments and drums and so they disbanded brought the guitar and the string so they can have the tarps and george and ruth are going to play another the kind of brings us together in the the incan wind instruments the indian wind instruments and the new the old world guitar right there's a mandolin. Has a shot of turn-of-the-century incan band stephen back then quickly. As i travel around a lot of demonstrations a campesino rallies against the government of poor land reform and this is one that i have just come on in cusco heading to see the women with background again is a different styles costumes don't have a kind of fedora styled women have stovepipe hat the background and a man wear their knit caps which are modeled after conquistador helmets so the incan cancer from conquistador helmets. If there had lost on a big thing about laws now they're putting their money into irritated lansdowne coast rather than the small plots up in the highlands that's what some of this was about this is a portrait outside of. People archaeologist archaeologist and people say that this rivals the construction of a lot of greek and roman buildings when you look at how small the people are there again huge rocks huge stone. That some of these they got now looked at the the content of these some of that came from 6. Others came through thirty kilometers away so about 18 miles they had to bring these huge boulders and cut them up either cut them up there or cut them up here some of them are cut out this mountain here because there was some stone there they could do but the other definitely they found the sources work at least 18 miles away some cases. So it's it's probably it's hard to say but it's probably. It might have been filled in after their something again the incas had trouble with their foundations going out so they really took a lot of precautions and so they probably put foundation very deep and then put something up there the spanish took this down and again use it to build another building so. This is just a structural part of it the real city was up on the top that's all been gone the real good work was up on top so probably filled it in. Just buy sure later. Ropes and people last people the incas had a system. No big trees are no big trees that area they're all tiny trees do trees they planted eucalyptus are bigger but those appointment recently came with the spanish they have llamas alpacas and beer. The inca the inca did get into a smithing so they didn't have some tools. Not real strong tools but enough that they could get a few trobar type things and things and. And working some cracks and fissures in thanks so that's. This is the year bangla valley this is the holy valley of the incas is where they counted on to have all their grain taken care of and then. Who's all the way up the mountain this is just the beginning of the terracing the territory was just exquisite in unbelievable. But this is leading down the valley toward this is actually the one of the source rivers of the amazon so this is the beginnings of the amazon miura bamba. And the english were really great on protecting the riverstage they built walls along the rivers and everybody in the foundation of this little bridge to big foundation they're not the cement block one but the other one is income still think of times in the big rock that's in the middle of the river there was put there to break the water flow so it wouldn't wash away the foundation so they had some idea how to detect their foundation so they put that big rock in there. You see the primitive terracing all the way up the mountain does not use today. Could you. This is a shot of a place called sasha twyman. Lucky bamboo. This was a place where the incas when they're on the trail could stop and get a furnished and everything so they had a lot of terrorism here and you can see the terezin has steps on it. So they could move from terrace to terrace and the really were transportation routes to so this is a good idea of riri big terrace a very well-constructed tear someone with smaller butt smaller. But terracing is abandoned and so accrue has problems food they could use some of the terrace and was they are now trying to think of how to use this again. They're trying to do this again. It's called modern efficient use of the soil if you know you have big farm you don't have little terraces anymore people say we want to go back to our plots and do this but the government and that's what that rules about the government won't give them the money because it said it's a waste of our time. When they're showing now that it would be really beneficial to do. And i am at world bank and exports and other stuff that i just this is machu picchu and this city was only discovered 1916 it was a lost city of the incas someone discovered a kind of like following up on old stories and hiram bingham. Discover this and it's supposedly was built. The last inca at wobble when he was killed. They. Spanish tried to make a deal with a new income put a new puppet on the throne and this puppet. well spanish are going to be nice to us after all that's gold and then they'll be nice to us. They think he's retreated to this city which was just another city along the way. And lived here until he died with dad about thousand people a figures lived in this city 250 dwellings about thousand people. That's what the speculation is they don't really know so. They don't know what happened to me. But you can see the pete rugs and everything misses real reconstructed income dwellings there and depending how they did it. There's an ancient that. Reconstructed. This is about 70000 ft. This this is a great thing about machu picchu that the people founder. When the spanish would come into ankeny area the incas worship the sun and there was a big ones on the soul stirrers when his son was going to leave our realm and this is called the hitching post of the sun so that you can people get out there the elders the people who knew how to stop is if they are. Well the religious think they wanted to bring the catholic church in the incan bureaucracy were pretty much the same all they want to do is knock off the top top down and they had control until they just try they really made some attempt to understand the inca and the quechua so that they could take over their system and not lose the organization that the place so they want to keep that attacked. Be honest. This is the incan jail in machu picchu of england's didn't like anyone to be lazy they said i have to do is little bit and will provide for you so they would put people. Lock them in this thing they had little loose they would lose them in and kind of feed on them for awhile today. Vegas had a greeting that kind of said when you met someone who said. Don't be lazy don't be whatever and don't be something else and the people would say back to them and don't you be at either so that was the common greeting so they didn't like people be lazy like to be working and doing things. a load. City of a thousand people it was pretty hard to escape and go and do something else. Yeah from machu picchu from i was up on i went up on that big pqc yard so if i'm there i stayed a little city down below there what's that for. Ethno archaeological ethanol historical value is really amazing this little say the only way to get to machu picchu is to walk the inca trail over the mountains or to take the railroad in. Sos2do city aguascalientes was down below. I stayed in there and they people live around the train. You're coming and going. And the. They grow corn in that area on the andes and they make beer out of it called chicha. And whenever anyone has cheetah that they presley trousdale put this little red flag out. Peaches been the real life. Indian people go on for so long. Corn potatoes. Barley house big crap cuz barley can be grown at a very high altitude we're even higher than corner everything else so they grow out of borrowing now just a little bit. And this all over all over it everywhere i went little villages big villages everywhere so i just couldn't scape it. It's fine they know it's the government they know it's not the average person that's the segundo. Hammerhead that they're playing a guitar and singing folk songs and things done just like our pc to rally's in 10. I think we have someone here could tell you about that. And all the women on women wear goldie. Roll your neck and now it's come from czechoslovakia tree ornaments. Where they get their imports from now. Do they make tree ornaments. Oh i. I was really out of the speakers i really had a choice a telephoto lens from oceanside. Don't believe in intruding at people's lying back it didn't go to someplace just because it would be an intrusion. It so i really feel. Cross street was doing this i was they weren't aware i was around a couple of. This quiet market legacy was so quiet it's just beautiful and then the truck rolled out but loud speaker. I think george and ruth and david and jenny and dana for a joint in italy. I wouldn't give her as everyone give david a good program. One final thing i've got some things hanging up there i'm willing there's a charge of south american archaeology for people who really want to get up for school but works he will not go to take this pit in and what's going on there and look at them afterwards he will not go there and. Simone bolivar this is his 200th anniversary of his birth this year and so 150 years ago off so he said united states appears destined by providence to plague america with miseries in the name of liberty and that that i thought that was something they said that. There's something going on even though we're kind of. Not involved in politics i think this year really is a critical year in case we break us90 now or do we just kind of go rolling along so do it's been 150 or 200 years that are involved what is taken out in self-interest of latin america.
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