WEBVTT Kind: captions Language: en 00:00:01.199 --> 00:00:06.110 align:start position:0% all right good morning everyone my name is Heather Fisher chair of the historic preservation commission I call the meeting to order it is September 20th 2022 and it is 8 A.M uh the first item on the agenda is approval of meeting minutes for August 16th 2022 any comments or questions I can make a motion to approve the minutes I'll second that all those in favor say aye aye aye those opposed same sign okay motion approved the second item on the agenda is a historic overlay District review of property 426 on 7th Avenue South in the Island Park historical overlay district and I'll hand it off to look thank you commissioner Sigourney Luke Marmon with the planning department uh item two again is a historic overlay review for 426 7th Avenue South in Highland Park historic overlay to give you some context with aerial imagery we have Hawthorne Elementary 7th Avenue South 8th Avenue South and then 5th Street and 4th Street surrounding the this block thatkin is proposing a 26 foot by 26 foot garage on the south side of the house and at the end of the driveway here if you can see the cursor on the screen this is the from the street view some context photos this is a subject property in the middle the White House and then another one from the street again this is looking at it from the north side of the property a little more of the East Side East facade of the house then top another one of the East Side looking at the driveway specifically and then on the bottom you have the South facade here's a couple views of the backyard where the garage would be located and currently it's just open space here's some existing well the proposed floor plan and site plan here you can see the existing house drawn or outlined and then the Garage proposed in the rear this is a two-star garage and then it said again um accessible from the shared driveway on the east side of the property here's some elevation drawings of The Proposal this white vinyl siding proposed and the proposed materials have the siding and roofing material are supposed to are intended to match the existing house an additional spec sheets and for doors and windows are provided otherwise in the packet you have some of the siding and roofing materials shown the applicant Anthony Khaled is present and uh feared to answer any questions that concludes staff's presentation thank you any comments or questions are you going to get started this fall are you going to wait until the spring um I guess that depends on the concrete but our plan is to start this soon as possible well I have a couple of a couple of comments the uh the alien Park overlay excuse me the Island Park overlay design requirements call for two things um first of all in general a roof pitch of 6 over 12. and although most of the houses in the district have roof pitches that are steeper than that that's what's in the regulations and you're you're calling for a four over twelve pitch for the garage and I'm wondering if you if it would be possible to increase that roof pitch to more closely meet these standards for the district um so I guess cost is kind of what's driving that um you know just because everything will be more expensive because there'll be more rough and and so that's that's what's driving the 412 roof pitch and then it seems like I did see a couple others in the neighborhood that were would have been you know a lower pitch like that yes that's correct over time although originally this neighborhood and the other older neighborhoods were um uh composed of fine houses well maintained over time without any um guidance without any restraints people have built a lot of different things and one of the interests in making the overlay districts is try and re-capture the historic character of neighborhoods and the other comment I noticed the garage door is 18 feet wide and the um accessory structure requirements are garage doors not exceeding 10 feet in width and I noticed the garage right next to you has two garage doors that appear to be 10 feet wide each sure um you know and that's the same scenario uh just that paying for one 18-foot garage door is a lot cheaper than paying for uh you know pretty much everything that's on this garage the cost is driving uh force on it I guess any other comments from the commission are you willing to consider making a change um you know I've talked to the homeowner about it and like I say I mean he just doesn't have the extra money to spend to do it I think is what he's what is telling me so the difference between two 10-foot doors and one 18 foot door is what um I guess I don't have that exact number right now but well since we're here why don't you give us a ballpark actually I could probably give you more uh I do track that and generic Menards doors for a single or 18-foot door it would be about sixteen hundred dollars in a single nine foot door is about 900 so there's a slight savings and and then 200. well that's yeah and that's like you said an uninsulated door um this is an insulated door and then also that doesn't take into consideration the installation two doors versus one so I mean I I would guess it's probably more like a thousand dollars and then it yeah it might even might even be more because uh if I put two 10-foot doors in depending on how you move them around sometimes you have to do a porthole framing if the wall um if the walls get too narrow on the sides but it just depends on how it's laid out I guess do you know I've had what the pitch of the home is on the roof uh I guess I'm not sure it was certainly steeper yeah I mean that must be maybe a 10 12 or 12 12. and the owner is not here correct correct I think issues like this are important and so I will make a motion to deny the application as submitted and request that it be resubmitted to meet the design ERS of the overlay District I would second that all those in favor say I I those are supposed same sign okay the motion is not approved so maybe our recommendation would be to go to the homeowner um maybe do another cost estimate with those changes recommended changes and so the recommended changes were the two garage doors and the roof pitch yeah okay absolutely uh okay we didn't touch on any actual finished materials is that something else we would want to address just so that he can come in oh are we okay with this finished materials as I guess I don't have a problem with the profile seems adequate that's the big one I guess more appropriate than the house actually so yeah that's true okay thank you thank you for your time thank you any other business okay uh with that the meeting is adjourned well our next meeting is going to be October 18th 2022. thank you [Music] 00:00:06.110 --> 00:00:07.670 align:start position:0% 00:00:07.670 --> 00:00:09.169 align:start position:0% 00:00:09.169 --> 00:00:11.509 align:start position:0% 00:00:11.509 --> 00:00:15.650 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