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Well speaking of

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a change in the thirty three years that
you. Taught and counseled Souter junior

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high school you then saw several three
decades of social change happening. And I'm

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wondering if you could just comment

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a little bit on that because from the time
so much change from the time that you

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have been

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a child to AS and now the forty's fifty's
sixty's into the seventy's. Well I

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think the worst time was the Vietnamese
situation school because the young people

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were just they just. Had
attitudes that were not

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healthy for them. In what
sense. Drugs like or.

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Anger because recall
caching Jonadab speaking.

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Had And. Different attitude towards life.

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Apparently their older siblings were
experimenting with all kinds of things and if

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it affected them and they picked
some other habits up. It was

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a very difficult time. And it
was answered by this segment

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a police department. With

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a program that. Was very very wonderful
with that they called used Service officers

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and most junior highs had to use service
officers on campuses throughout the city

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. Until it was that the that situation
was resolved. And the war was over.

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But you see how strange things
work. People at certain times.

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These are but these were Caucasian John
Young people that were just blown away by

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that war and have. Some of the
things they did. Were they. I'm sure

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they look back as they were
dangerous things and yet.

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That was seemed to be the thing that that
they were their older siblings were doing

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to take their minds off that war that
they were going to have to go and fight.

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So that was a very difficult
time by I would have

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a great parents coming in. Because
they'd say they were angry because the

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vice principal would would be
dealing with drunken girls.

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Marijuana boys smoking
marijuana. Carrying marijuana of

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a way in their pockets. And
so on and parents for angry

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at the teachers of the schools for for
saying you can't do that you can't tolerate

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that. So we were we were
being bad parents to them

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they were being good parents
or so they thought and

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it was nice when that war ended
because we gradually got

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a change of attitude and could get
back to the business at hand.

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It sounds like the young people that you
worked with were some of them quite

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disturbed very her sister and I also
had the deaf and hard to hearing

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children in my counseling
situation and it was it was

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a good experience for me because I lost

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a hearing in both ears over night. Had
the right here came back and it's

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it's it's I still have half an ear and
they're hearing lies otherwise I would be

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totally deaf and it gave me an opportunity
to deal with deaf children and know

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what they go through. And
yeah I tried to learn sign

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language but it didn't work because there.

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The teacher of the deaf wanted
them to learn to read lips and

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eyes so they wanted me to talk right.