1 00:00:00,62 --> 00:00:04,04 So you know I I I heard 2 00:00:04,05 --> 00:00:08,34 a lot about like myself I read things about you but you I never met him or anything 3 00:00:08,34 --> 00:00:14,14 to describe it. What was it about my my so many people fall 4 00:00:15,72 --> 00:00:17,80 my number one had 5 00:00:17,81 --> 00:00:24,54 a pretty good mind he understood here both psychology. He was 6 00:00:24,54 --> 00:00:30,39 a tremendous speaker he was an art artist of words 7 00:00:31,54 --> 00:00:37,20 and he could just talk talk convince Congress 8 00:00:40,13 --> 00:00:46,20 he could talk make change people's mind he was amazing. He was 9 00:00:46,20 --> 00:00:53,09 a persuader orator great orator and 10 00:00:53,10 --> 00:00:59,69 I think he won many prizes as orator college. Yes 11 00:00:59,70 --> 00:01:00,54 he was 12 00:01:00,54 --> 00:01:07,41 a very I was an abberation 13 00:01:07,41 --> 00:01:11,44 located. But I cracked of he would be 14 00:01:11,44 --> 00:01:17,66 a young man medio by it is about five six maybe seven 15 00:01:22,48 --> 00:01:29,30 now and he'd talk about human rights. Very well he was 16 00:01:29,30 --> 00:01:35,77 well versed. Well educated had committed. Very committed. Yes How about his 17 00:01:35,77 --> 00:01:42,27 personality his character what with his you know about that. Well that can't speak 18 00:01:42,27 --> 00:01:47,67 to too well I knew of a lady that what went is it is office in D.C. 19 00:01:47,67 --> 00:01:53,62 After he started his consulting firm he go consulting for many help 20 00:01:53,62 --> 00:02:00,17 a lot of people you know rely on C.N.N.'s get their citizenship back 21 00:02:00,17 --> 00:02:07,02 that kind of thing name is Mary talk about personal Fabry 22 00:02:07,02 --> 00:02:08,70 friend. What's O.B.L. 23 00:02:08,70 --> 00:02:13,04 . And Merry top guys still alive every was 24 00:02:13,04 --> 00:02:17,61 a while we talk over the fall. She lives a good Jersey in 25 00:02:17,61 --> 00:02:21,02 a place called lame insults and 26 00:02:21,03 --> 00:02:25,14 a retirement home that her daughter the mixed you about the called 27 00:02:25,14 --> 00:02:31,97 a guy named War Eugene he's still alive and he 28 00:02:32,75 --> 00:02:32,91 was 29 00:02:32,92 --> 00:02:39,84 a farmer in the mixed and he started this community. He 30 00:02:39,84 --> 00:02:46,62 he and his father went to sea to farm for care and did well 31 00:02:48,09 --> 00:02:52,66 did very well it's interesting how well so many people from all that he grew up all 32 00:02:52,66 --> 00:02:59,07 said he's if they lots about eight or seven hundred acres his son Fred married to 33 00:02:59,07 --> 00:03:01,41 a job or well but still runs 34 00:03:01,41 --> 00:03:07,22 a forebear interest and tackle you cheat attack and my brothers brother Willie say 35 00:03:07,22 --> 00:03:12,61 be age and he used to come and visit here in Los Angeles cause he buried alongside 36 00:03:12,61 --> 00:03:16,39 this girl. Yuri who was a teacher of 37 00:03:16,39 --> 00:03:23,12 a kebab and she goes all over the world judging it by the interest. Yuri 38 00:03:23,12 --> 00:03:29,73 more Eugene. So let's go back now. So after that meeting. What happened next. 39 00:03:30,10 --> 00:03:34,33 So well when we decided as a J.C. 40 00:03:34,33 --> 00:03:41,29 Oh this is our position. That's it. So whenever anything comes 41 00:03:41,29 --> 00:03:47,94 up. Betty. People just follow right in. How did the G.'s 42 00:03:47,94 --> 00:03:52,55 like Mike. Communicate with all these people after the meeting. I mean what will 43 00:03:52,55 --> 00:03:59,20 the newspapers or their. Oh obey me she begged and so they would publish 44 00:03:59,20 --> 00:04:04,86 every word that people get it and I go Mike would whenever he wanted to get the 45 00:04:04,86 --> 00:04:10,64 word out he would use the go with his papers then he said. J A C L paper called the 46 00:04:10,64 --> 00:04:17,53 Pacific citizen. Harry Honda editor and it was Harry the 47 00:04:17,53 --> 00:04:19,50 editor then. Now that's 48 00:04:19,50 --> 00:04:25,58 a good was good question. It was to Gerry was Larry to Jerry water 49 00:04:25,58 --> 00:04:30,86 a memory member's wife said it was 50 00:04:30,86 --> 00:04:33,16 a girl or 51 00:04:33,17 --> 00:04:40,01 a Treasury. That's right. He also worked. That's right Larry to generate So 52 00:04:40,01 --> 00:04:44,49 it was through Pacific citizen that they could keep people informed. What was 53 00:04:44,49 --> 00:04:45,98 happening there was 54 00:04:45,98 --> 00:04:52,71 a house paper of successes. Correct. Still surviving Nicci Bay Times 55 00:04:52,71 --> 00:04:57,08 went out to Seattle had the Japanese paper. Yes they still have 56 00:04:57,08 --> 00:05:01,52 a north american post is still going still going. How are you doing that. Tom your 57 00:05:01,52 --> 00:05:07,15 mortgage is the publisher and he's told me oh yeah tell me are 58 00:05:10,38 --> 00:05:14,77 having I mean he said Yeah I think still the chairman I want to time. Tonio came to 59 00:05:14,77 --> 00:05:17,19 Los Angeles and he'd hired 60 00:05:17,19 --> 00:05:23,17 a consultant to fundraise and he says. Fred. I want to come and talk to you 61 00:05:24,74 --> 00:05:31,70 and we met near the airport. I still remember that meeting. Camille. So I 62 00:05:31,70 --> 00:05:38,30 said no I'm not going to you know me I don't but I heard about you. So glad you're 63 00:05:38,30 --> 00:05:45,13 here and then we had this girl for she said Oh. She 64 00:05:45,13 --> 00:05:48,20 ran this operation out of a D.C. 65 00:05:49,38 --> 00:05:56,26 And she just retired I think she's from Portland. I think what's she going to kill 66 00:05:56,26 --> 00:06:03,15 her to. Are you going to the Tell Me Oh yes oh good. OK so I got to know him right 67 00:06:03,15 --> 00:06:03,15 .