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PRESIDENT TRUMP DID AND GET THE LEGS --

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>> SOMEWHERE SUNDAY AFTERNOON IT BECAME A HORRIBLE IDEA.

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>> SO MANY REASONS, WOW, THIS IS UNBELIEVABLY UNPRECEDENTED.

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I CAN'T EVEN BEGIN. >> WITH US NOW, REPUBLICAN

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SENATOR PAT TOOMEY, HERE TO DEFEND THE IDEA OF LETTING

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VLADIMIR PUTIN RUN OUR CYBER SECURITY UNIT.

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>> IT'S A GOOD IDEA FOR THE FOX TO GUARD THE HEN HOUSE.

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>> WHAT? >> I TAKE IT YOU AGREE WITH JOHN

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McCAIN AND EVERYBODY ELSE, LINDSEY GRAHAM?

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>> I THOUGHT HE PUT IT WELL. >> IT MIGHT BE THE DUMBEST IDEA.

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>> WHEN THE PRESIDENT SAYS LET'S JUST FORGIVE AND FORGET ON THE

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CYBER THEFT THAT HE'S ACTUALLY WEAKENING THE PRESIDENCY.

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DO YOU AGREE WITH THAT ALSO? >> I DO.

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I THINK -- LOOK, THE MEETING WITH PUTIN, I THINK, WAS A BIG

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DISAPPOINTMENT. AFTER A GREAT SPEECH IN WARSAW,

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WHICH WE WERE HOPING FOR, WAITING FOR.

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WE GOT IT. AND THAT MEETING WITH PUTIN WAS

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A PROBLEM. >> WHAT'S YOUR BIGGEST CONCERN

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ABOUT IT? >> THE BIGGEST CONCERN IS

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VLADIMIR PUTIN NEEDED TO COME AWAY FROM THAT MEETING

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UNDERSTANDING THAT HE'S GOING TO HAVE TO PAY A PRICE FOR HIS

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AGGRESSION IN CRIMEA, HIS AGGRESSION IN UKRAINE, FOR HIS

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AGGRESSION IN THE AMERICAN ELECTIONS AND A PRESIDENT LET

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HIM KNOW SQUARELY, YOU'RE GOING TO PAY A PRICE.

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HERE ARE SOME OF THE FEATURES. A TOUGH SANCTIONS BILL THAT JUST

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PASSED THE SENATE. I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO SIGNING

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IT. IT'S STILL TIME FOR US TO

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PROVIDE DEFENSE RESOURCES FOR THE PEOPLE IN UKRAINE.

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AND UNTIL YOUR BEHAVIOR CHANGES, THESE THINGS DON'T GET REVERSED.

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THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN THE MESSAGE.

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>> THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN GOOD. HAROLD?

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>> PAT, TO YOUR POINT, IT WAS FASCINATING THAT NONE OF THAT

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HAPPENED. WE HAVE OBVIOUSLY SEEN THE

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REACTION OF McCAIN AND LINDSEY. ARE OTHER COLLEAGUES OF YOURS

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EXPRESSING -- IS THIS A MORE COMMONLY HELD FEELING ABOUT NOT

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ONLY RUSSIA BUT OTHER ISSUES? >> WE'LL FIND OUT MORE TONIGHT.

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WE'RE BACK AFTER BEING GONE FOR THE FOURTH OF JULY WEEK.

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I THINK THE VOTE ON THE SANCTIONS TELL YOU SOMETHING.

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>> 97-2. >> IT SIGNIFICANTLY SHIFTS POWER

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AND AUTHORITY FROM THE WHITE HOUSE, FROM THE PRESIDENCY TO

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THE CONGRESS. IT TAKES AWAY THE PRESIDENT'S

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UNILATERAL ABILITY TO LIFT SANCTIONS, FOR INSTANCE.

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I DON'T KNOW THE LAST TIME WE DID THAT BUT IT'S IN THIS BILL.

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THERE'S A REASON IT'S CONTENTIOUS IN THE HOUSE.

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>> DOES THIS IMPACT HEALTH CARE AND -- THAT'S WHAT I WAS REALLY

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TRYING TO GET AT. >> I'M SORRY.

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I THINK THE ANSWER IS IT DOESN'T.

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>> IT DOES NOT? >> ENOUGH PROBLEMS WITH HEALTH

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CARE, THAT'S A BIG CHALLENGE FOR US, OBVIOUSLY.

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WHAT'S GOING ON IN THIS OTHER SPACE DOES NOT DIRECTLY AFFECT

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THAT. >> SENATOR, IS IT APPROPRIATE

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FOR A PRESIDENTIAL CAMPAIGN TO SOLICIT OR ACCEPT NEGATIVE

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INFORMATION ABOUT ARRIVAL FROM A RUSSIAN NATIONAL?

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>> NO, THAT DOESN'T STRIKE ME AS APPROPRIATE.

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>> I WAS GOING TO SAY, THAT IS A LEADING QUESTION.

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>> WHAT'S WRONG WITH IT? >> IT ENCOURAGES COUNTRIES TO

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COME IN AND UNDERMINE OUR DEMOCRATIC PROCESS.

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AND THESE COUNTRIES HAVE GREAT CAPABILITIES TO DO THAT SORT OF

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THING. I DON'T THINK WE WANT TO HAVE

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THAT HAPPEN. >> WHAT DOES IT SAY ABOUT PAUL

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MANAFORT AND DONALD TRUMP JR. AND JARED KUSHNER THAT THEY SAT

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IN THE MEETING, THE PURPOSE OF WHICH --

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>> THE INTENT -- >> THIS IS BREAKING NEWS.

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I THINK THIS CAME OUT OVER THE WEEKEND.

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HOW MANY PEOPLE WERE IN THIS MEETING?

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I THINK WE'RE GOING TO FIND OUT WHAT HAPPENED IN THIS MEETING.

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WE'RE GOING TO LEARN A LOT MORE ABOUT IT AND WE SHOULD.

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>> 97-2, THAT WAS THE VOTE? >> I THINK SO, YEAH.

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>> WHILE YOU'RE PROCEEDING ON THAT BILL, THAT BASICALLY STRIPS

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A PIECE OF PRESIDENTIAL POWER FROM THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED

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STATES, WHAT KIND OF PUSHBACK, IF ANY, DO YOU GET FROM THE

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WHITE HOUSE OR DID YOU GET FROM THE WHITE HOUSE?

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>> I'VE GOTTEN ZERO ON THIS. I HAVE A GREAT DEAL OF

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INTERACTION FROM THE WHITE HOUSE.

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>> DID THEY LOBBY YOU BEFORE THE BILL?

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>> NO, NOT AT ALL. BUT FULL DISCLOSURE, NO BIG

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SURPRISE, I SPEND MOST OF MY WORK ON DOMESTIC ISSUES,

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ECONOMIC, FISCAL, TAX AND HEALTH CARE AND HAVE VERY EXTENSIVE

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INTERACTIONS WITH THE WHITE HOUSE IN THOSE AREAS BUT I

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DIDN'T HEAR A WORD FROM ANYONE ABOUT THE SANCTIONS.

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>> ONE MORE QUESTION ABOUT THIS. WE'LL GO TO DAVID IGNATIUS AND

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GET TO HEALTH CARE. WHAT MESSAGE DO YOU HAVE FOR

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YOUR REPUBLICAN FRIENDS IN THE HOUSE WHO, RIGHT NOW, ARE BEING

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LOBBIED BY DONALD TRUMP TO WEAKEN OR STRIP OUT KEY

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PROVISIONS OF YOUR SANCTIONS BILL THAT YOU PASSED 97-2?

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>> FIRST OF ALL, FOLLOW YOUR INSTINCTS HERE.

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I THINK MY RUSSIAN -- MY RUSSIAN.

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MY REPUBLICAN COLLEAGUES IN THE HOUSE UNDERSTAND VERY WELL THAT

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VLADIMIR PUTIN IS NO ALLY, NO FRIEND.

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HE IS AN ADVERSARY. THAT SAY PERMANENT SITUATION

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WITH RESPECT TO PUTIN. AND WE HAVE -- THE CONSENSUS IN

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CONGRESS BETTER REFLECTS WHERE THE AMERICAN PEOPLE ARE ON THIS.

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THIS IS THE RIGHT THING TO DO. >> DAVID IGNATIUS?

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>> SENATOR, YOUR STATE, PENNSYLVANIA, WAS ONE OF THE

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CRUCIAL STATES IN GETTING DONALD TRUMP ELECTED TO THE ELECTORAL

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COLLEGE. I'M CURIOUS WHAT YOU'RE HEARING

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FROM YOUR CONSTITUENTS. WE TALK ON THIS SHOW, WE TALK IN

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WASHINGTON ABOUT THESE ISSUES. BUT IT'S ALWAYS A BIT OF A

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PUZZLE HOW MUCH THIS CONVERSATION IS PENETRATING THE

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VOTERS OUT IN THE COUNTRY. WHAT ARE YOU HEARING FROM VOTERS

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WHEN YOU TALK TO THEM ABOUT RUSSIAN MEDDLING AND THE

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ELECTION, ABOUT TRUMP'S CONTACTS, THOSE OF HIS

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ASSOCIATES WITH THE RUSSIANS? ARE PEOPLE GETTING WORRIED ABOUT

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THIS? >> SOMEWHAT.

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BUT I'LL TELL YOU, I DID A TOWN HALL MEETING LAST WEEK AND THE

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ISSUE THAT CAME UP, TIME AFTER TIME, WAS HEALTH CARE.

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THAT'S THE FRONT BURNER ISSUE. I THINK THERE'S SOME CONCERN IN

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THE BACKGROUND ABOUT OTHER THINGS, INCLUDING RUSSIA,

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CERTAINLY. BUT HEALTH CARE HAS BEEN THE

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DOMINANT ISSUE. >> SO, TO THAT EXTENT, THE

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CONVERSATION THAT WE'RE HAVING STILL HASN'T REALLY IN THE

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COUNTRY AS A WHOLE? >> NOT TO THE SAME EXTENT HEALTH

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CARE HAS. AGAIN, THIS MOST RECENT MEETING,

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WE LEARNED A LOT ABOUT IT OVER THE WEEKEND.

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IT'S QUITE NEW. >> LET'S TURN TO HEALTH CARE.

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>> SURE. >> WHAT ARE YOU HEARING FROM

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YOUR CONSTITUENTS? >> AS A GENERAL RULE, AND I

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THINK JOE WILL BACK ME UP ON THIS, YOU TEND TO HEAR FROM

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PEOPLE WHO ARE ANGRY. >> WHAT ARE THEY ANGRY ABOUT?

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>> PEOPLE WHO THINK YOU'RE DOING A GOOD JOB DON'T USUALLY CALL

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YOU. >> OF COURSE, WITH HAROLD,

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EVERYBODY LOVED HIM. FLOWERS THROWN AT HIS FEET.

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>> NEVER ANY CRITICISM. >> IN ALL SERIOUSNESS, THOUGH?

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>> I THINK THERE'S BEEN A LOT THAT'S BEEN GROSSLY

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MISCHARACTERIZED ABOUT THIS BILL.

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I THINK MUCH OF WHAT PEOPLE HAVE HEARD IS INACCURATE.

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WE'RE HEARING A VERY VOCAL PROTEST FROM PEOPLE WHO DON'T

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LIKE THE DIRECTION WE'RE HEADING IN.

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>> WHAT'S INACCURATE? >> I WOULD SAY THE

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CHARACTERIZATIONS OF MEDICAID ARE WIDELY INACCURATE.

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>> THE REPUBLICAN GOVERNORS ARE WRONG?

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>> YEAH. LOOK, REPUBLICAN GOVERNORS LIKE

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HAVING A LOT OF FREE MONEY THROWN AT THEM.

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THAT'S A FUN POSITION TO BE IN. >> IT'S NOT LIKE THEY CAN BUILD

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FERRIS WHEELS. IT'S TO TAKE CARE OF THE POOREST

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AMONG US. >> THE OBAMACARE DECISION THAT

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ADULT, ABLE-BODIED, WORKING AGE PEOPLE WITH NO DEPENDENTS WOULD

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QUALIFY FOR MEDICAID FOR THE FIRST TIME.

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OBAMACARE PROMISED 90% OF THAT TO BE COVERED.

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SO THAT'S BEEN ATTRACTIVE FOR A NUMBER OF GOVERNORS.

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OUR SUGGESTION, OUR LEGISLATION IS THAT OVER THE COURSE OF SEVEN

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YEARS, WE WILL GRADUALLY TRANSITION TO THE POINT WHERE

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STATES ARE PAYING THEIR CONVENTIONAL SHARE.

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LESS THAN HALF. FEDERAL GOVERNMENT WILL STILL

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PICK UP THE LION'S SHARE OF THIS, BUT THE STATES WILL

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EVENTUALLY GET TO THE POINT WHERE THEY'RE PAYING THE SAME

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PORTION FOR THIS CATEGORY OF MEDICAID ELIGIBILITY FOR ALL THE

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OTHER CATEGORY. >> DO YOU DISAGREE WITH THE

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CBO'S ASSESSMENT THAT 22 MILLION AMERICANS WILL LOSE COVERAGE?

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>> IT'S WIDELY SPECULATIVE. IF YOU DIG DOWN INTO THE CBO

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SCORE, HOW DO THEY COME UP WITH THESE NUMBERS?

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SEVERAL MILLION, THEY ASSUME THAT IF PEOPLE ARE NO LONGER

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REQUIRED TO, BY THE INDIVIDUAL MANDATE, THEY'LL DECIDE TO

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ABANDON FREE MEDICAID. FREE HEALTH CARE FOR YOUR FAMILY

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UNDER MEDICAID BUT IF YOU'RE NOT FORCED BY LAW TO PARTICIPATE,

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I'M OUT OF HERE. I THINK THAT'S IMPLAUSIBLE AT

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THE VERY LEAST. >> IF YOU CAN'T SPECULATE ON THE

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CBO'S NUMBERS, CAN YOU TELL US WHAT THE NUMBERS ARE?

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ARE YOU CONCERNED? >> I LOOK AT THE SUBSTANCE OF

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THIS. WHAT ARE WE DOING HERE?

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WE KEEP THE ENTIRE PROGRAM INTACT, THE NEW ELIGIBILITY

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PROGRAM INTACT, ASK STATES TO PAY THEIR SHARE.

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MAYBE AS IMPORTANT AS ALL THE REST, IN THE EIGHTH YEAR, WE

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ACTUALLY REQUIRE THAT THE PROGRAM BEGIN TO GROW AT A

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SLIGHTLY SLOWER PACE SO THAT WE HAVE A CHANCE OF ACTUALLY

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KEEPING UP WITH IT. JOE, I'VE ALWAYS BEEN CONCERNED

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ABOUT THE GROWTH OF OUR ENTITLEMENT PROGRAMS.

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THEY ARE DRIVING THE FISCAL TRAIN WRECK WE'RE ON.

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MEDICAID IS THE SINGLE BIGGEST DRIVER OF THIS.

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AND SOMEONE NEEDS TO TELL ME, WHAT IS A MORE RESPONSIBLE

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REFORM FOR A GIANT OUT OF CONTROL ENTITLEMENT PROGRAM THAN

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A SLIGHT CURB IN THE RATE AT WHICH IT GOES AT A POINT IN THE

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DISTANCE FUTURE. >> WHY AREN'T WE DOING THAT WITH

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MEDICARE? WHY IS IT WE'RE GOING AFTER THE

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POOR? >> YOU'VE GOT TO START

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SOMEWHERE. >> WHY ARE WE STARTING WITH THE

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POOR? >> THIS IS THE BIGGEST OF THE

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PROBLEMS, JOE. IT'S GROWING MOST RAPIDLY.

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CONTRIBUTING 70% OF OUR BUDGET DEFICIT RIGHT NOW.

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IT'S THE ONE THAT'S IN OUR LAP BECAUSE OF OBAMACARE.

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I THINK WE DO NEED TO MAKE REFORMS TO MEDICARE.

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WE NEED TO MAKE REFORMS TO SOCIAL SECURITY.

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I'VE BEEN MAKING THIS ARGUMENT SINCE 1988.

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>> I KNOW YOU HAVE AND YOU'RE ONE OF THE FEW THAT YOU HAVE

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BEEN AS CONSISTENT AS A FEW OTHERS OF US TALKING ABOUT

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ENTITLEMENT REFORM. I'M JUST CONCERNED THAT THE ONE

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ENTITLEMENT REFORM WE START WITH IS FOR THE POOR.

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LET ME ASK WHAT THESE CUT DOES TO YOUR RURAL HOSPITALS.

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WHAT HAPPENS IF YOU'RE IN WILLIAMSPORT, PENNSYLVANIA, OR

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WESTERN PENNSYLVANIA? >> THESE ARE CUTS IN THE RATE OF

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GROWTH. RURAL HOSPITALS WILL BE ABLE TO

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MANAGE THIS. BY THE WAY, SOME OF THE

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IMPORTANT THINGS -- >> HAVE THEY SAID THAT TO YOU,

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THAT THEY'RE FINE? OR ARE THEY COMPLAINING?

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>> SOME MORE SO AND SOME LESS SO.

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THE REALITY IS THERE ARE WHOLE NEW WAYS THAT SOME OF OUR HEALTH

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CARE PROVIDERS ARE DISCOVERING TREMENDOUS OPPORTUNITIES FOR

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SAVINGS. UPMC, INSURANCE, INDEPENDENCE,

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LEHIGH VALLEY NETWORK. USING DATA FOR PEOPLE WHO WILL

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BE LIKELY TO DEVELOP EXPENSIVE AND PROBLEMATIC HEALTH CONCERNS,

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FINDING WAYS TO INTERVENE EARLY. THERE'S TREMENDOUS INNOVATION

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THAT CAN HAPPEN IF WE ALLOW IT TO