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IN THE UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT 
FOR THE DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA 


UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, 
Plaintiff, 

vs. 

GEORGE PAPADOPOULOS, 

Defendant. 

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Criminal Action 

No. 1:17-cr-00182-RDM 

Washington, DC 
October 5, 2017 

2:12 p.m. 


TRANSCRIPT OF ARRAIGNMENT/PLEA AGREEMENT HEARING 
BEFORE THE HONORABLE RANDOLPH D. MOSS 
UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT JUDGE 


APPEARANCES 

For the Plaintiff: AARON S.J. ZELINSKY 

JEANNIE S. RHEE 
ANDREW D. GOLDSTEIN 

Department of Justice 
Office of Special Counsel 
950 Pennsylvania Avenue 
Washington, DC 20004 

For the Defendant: THOMAS M. BREEN 

ROBERT W. STANLEY 

Breen & Pugh 

53 West Jackson Boulevard 
Suite 1215 
Chicago, IL 60604 


Court Reporter: JEFF M. HOOK, CSR, RPR 

Official Court Reporter 
U.S. District & Bankruptcy Courts 
333 Constitution Avenue, NW 
Washington, DC 20001 


Proceedings recorded by realtime stenographic shorthand; 
transcript produced by computer-aided transcription. 




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PROCEEDINGS 

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DEPUTY CLERK: Criminal action 17-182, the United 

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States of America versus George Papadopoulos. Will counsel 

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please approach the podium and identify yourselves for the 

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record. 

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MR. GOLDSTEIN: Good afternoon, your Honor. 

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Andrew Goldstein and Aaron Zelinsky from the Special 

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Counsel's Office representing the United States. And with 

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us at counsel table is FBI Special Agent Curtis Heidi. 

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THE COURT: Good afternoon to all of you. 

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MR. STANLEY: Good afternoon, your Honor. Robert 

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Stanley and Tom Breen on behalf of Mr. Papadopoulos who's at 

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counsel table. 

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THE COURT: Good afternoon to all three of you. 

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MR. BREEN: Good afternoon, your Honor. 

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THE COURT: First of all, we're proceeding today 

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under seal. I assume that everyone in the courtroom here is 

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affiliated with one of the parties in the case, is that 

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correct? 

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MR. GOLDSTEIN: That's correct, your Honor. 

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THE COURT: So today's proceeding will be under 

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seal. I want to come back to that issue at the end of 

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today's proceedings. I wanted to just touch on a couple of 

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preliminary matters before we get to the arraignment. 

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principally just putting a couple of things on the record. 



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The first thing I wanted to note for the record 

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was that I did meet briefly earlier this week with 

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Mr. Zelinsky and Mr. Goldstein. They indicated that that 

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was with the consent of Mr. Papadopoulos' counsel, and it 

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was for purposes of really discussing procedural issues and 

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the sealed nature of the proceeding. I had a brief follow 

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up conversation with Mr. Zelinsky. Nothing was disclosed to 

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me in the course of those conversations that has not 

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appeared in the papers that have been filed in this 

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proceeding. 

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If there's anything that either Mr. Goldstein or 

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Mr. Zelinsky wants to add by way of clarification, you're 

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welcome to do so. 

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MR. GOLDSTEIN: Nothing, your Honor. 

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THE COURT: Okay, thank you. Let me simply for 

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purposes of the record ask Mr. Breen or Mr. Stanley if you 

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would confirm just for the record that that was with your 

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consent? 

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MR. STANLEY: It was, your Honor. 

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THE COURT: Okay, thank you. The other thing I 

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wanted to just put on the record is that as some of you may 

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know, I was a partner at Wilmer, Cutler, Pickering, Hale & 

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Dorr before I became a judge. Mr. Mueller and Ms. Rhee, 

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who's on the papers in this case, and some of the other 

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lawyers from that office were also previously lawyers at 



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Wilmer, Cutler, Pickering, Hale & Dorr. I know them, I've 
worked with some of them, but that's true of many lawyers 
who appear in front of me. I of course did not work with 
them on anything even remotely related to this case or these 
proceedings. 

I wanted to make sure that you were all aware of 
this fact. It doesn't strike me as raising any concerns or 
recusal issues. I left the firm in December of 2014, so 
it's been almost three years since I left the firm. I have 
no continuing connection to the firm. I don't, for example, 
receive any retirement payments from the firm. Mr. Mueller 
and Ms. Rhee and the others of course have all left the firm 
as well. So I don't see an issue here, but I did want to 
put it on the record. 

If anyone wanted to raise anything with me with 
respect to that, I would welcome that. 

MR. BREEN: Your Honor, the firm hasn't been the 
same since you left. We have no objection to that. 

THE COURT: Well, thank you for that. So why 
don't we start with the arraignment then of 
Mr. Papadopoulos. If I could ask that you and your counsel 
come to the podium. 

DEPUTY CLERK: May the record reflect that the 
Defendant has received a copy of the information. George 
Papadopoulos, in criminal case 17-182 in which you are 



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charged by an information on count one, false statements, do 

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you waive the formal reading of the information and how do 

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you wish to plea? 

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MR. STANLEY: We waive formal reading. 

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THE DEFENDANT: I plead guilty. 

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THE COURT: Okay, thank you. So we'll now go 

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through a much longer process to confirm that that's the 

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plea that you really want to enter in this case. Before we 

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do so, let me ask that the Deputy Clerk place 

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Mr. Papadopoulos under oath. 

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DEPUTY CLERK: Please raise your right hand. Do 

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you solemnly swear that you will well and truly answer all 

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questions propounded to you by the Court, so help you God? 

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THE DEFENDANT: I do. 

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THE COURT: So Mr. Papadopoulos, do you understand 

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that you're under oath, and if you don't answer the Court's 

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questions truthfully today that you could be prosecuted for 

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perjury or for making false statements? 

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THE DEFENDANT: Yes. 

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THE COURT: The purpose of today's hearing, 

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Mr. Papadopoulos, is for you to make an important decision: 

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A decision about whether you want to go to trial in the case 

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and put the Government to its burden of proof or whether you 

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would like to enter a plea of guilty. Before you make such 

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a serious decision, I think we all want to make sure that 



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you understand your rights, understand what you're pleading 

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to and the terms of the agreement. So we're going to go 

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through all of that in some detail. 

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If at any point during today's proceedings there's 

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anything that you feel as though you don't understand or 

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would like clarification on, you're welcome to take a break 

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and confer with your counsel. You're welcome to ask me a 

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question at any point. Our goal here is just to make sure 

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that when you make your decision at the end of today's 

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proceeding, you're making a knowing, informed and voluntary 

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decision, okay? 

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THE DEFENDANT: Yes. 

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THE COURT: So let me ask you to have a seat for a 

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moment. I'm going to ask that the Government come up and 

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state the original charges against Mr. Papadopoulos, and 

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then indicate what, if any, charges will be dropped as a 

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condition or term of the plea. 

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MR. GOLDSTEIN: Thank you, your Honor. The 

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Defendant was charged by complaint with one count of a 

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violation of 18 U.S.C. 1001, false statements; and one count 

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of deletion or destruction of records under 18 U.S.C. 1519. 

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In this proceeding, the Defendant is only pleading guilty to 

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one count of false statements, 18 U.S.C. 1001. 

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THE COURT: And what are the terms of the plea 

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agreement? 



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MR. GOLDSTEIN: The terms of the plea agreement 

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are that the Defendant is pleading guilty, acknowledging the 

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statement of the offense and all of the conduct that is set 

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forth in the statement of the offense. The Defendant is 

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waiving his right to appeal his sentence except under 

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limited circumstances. And the Defendant is also waiving 

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venue to the extent that there's any challenge to venue in 

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this proceeding. 

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And the Government in the agreement agrees to 

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bring to the Court's attention at sentencing the Defendant's 

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efforts to cooperate with the Government on the condition 

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that the Defendant continue to meet with and provide 

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information to the Government on request. 

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THE COURT: Okay, thank you. So Mr. Papadopoulos, 

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you and your counsel are welcome to come back up. 

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So Mr. Stanley, did Mr. Goldstein accurately state 

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the terms of the plea agreement? 

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MR. STANLEY: He did, your Honor. 

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THE COURT: And Mr. Papadopoulos, do you 

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understand that those are the terms of the agreement? 

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THE DEFENDANT: Yes, I do, your Honor. 

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THE COURT: How old are you? 

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THE DEFENDANT: I'm 30 years old. 

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THE COURT: And how far did you go in school? 

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THE DEFENDANT: I have a Master's degree. 



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THE COURT: Were you born in the United States? 

THE DEFENDANT: Yes, Chicago. 

THE COURT: And you're a U.S. citizen I assume? 

THE DEFENDANT: Yes. 

THE COURT: In the last 48 hours, have you taken 
any alcohol, drugs or medicine that could affect your 
ability to understand what you're doing by pleading guilty? 

THE DEFENDANT: No, your Honor. 

THE COURT: Have you ever received any treatment 
for any type of mental illness or emotional disturbance? 

THE DEFENDANT: No, your Honor. 

THE COURT: Have you received a copy of the 
information pending against you? Those are the written 
charges that you entered your plea to just a few moments 
ago. Have you received a copy of those? 

THE DEFENDANT: Yes, I have. 

THE COURT: And have you had a chance to read 
those carefully? 

THE DEFENDANT: Yes, I have. 

THE COURT: And have you had a chance to confer 
with your counsel about those? 

THE DEFENDANT: Yes, I have. 

THE COURT: Did you understand what's in those 

charges? 

THE DEFENDANT: Yes. 



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THE COURT: Are you satisfied with the services of 

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your lawyers in this case? 

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THE DEFENDANT: Yes, I am. 

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THE COURT: And have you had enough time to talk 

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with your lawyers about your case? 

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THE DEFENDANT: Yes, I have. 

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THE COURT: And have you had enough time to talk 

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with your lawyers about the plea offer and whether you 

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should accept it? 

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THE DEFENDANT: Yes, I have. 

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THE COURT: Mr. Papadopoulos, I want to explain to 

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you certain rights that you have in this matter. Listen 

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carefully, and any questions you have, feel free to ask me 

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or feel free to take a moment to confer with your counsel. 

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First, do you waive any objection to venue in the 

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District of Columbia? 

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THE DEFENDANT: Yes, I — yes. 

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THE COURT: So I'm going to sign — do we have a 

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waiver for the actual form for that? 

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DEPUTY CLERK : There's no waiver of venue, your 

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Honor, because it's part of the plea agreement. 

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THE COURT: All right. I will make a finding on 

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the record that Mr. Papadopoulos has waived venue or any 

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objection to venue in the District of Columbia. 

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to proceed against you, that you would have a right to 

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require that they proceed by grand jury indictment? In 

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other words, that would mean that the Government would have 

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to convince 12 grand jurors out of at least 16, and at most 

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alleged against you was committed and that you committed 

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that crime? 

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THE DEFENDANT: Yes. 

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THE COURT : And do you understand that you're 

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giving up your right to put the Government to its burden of 

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convincing a grand jury that there's probable cause? 

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THE DEFENDANT: Yes. 

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THE COURT: So I think I have the waiver. I have 

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a waiver of indictment which has been signed. Do you have 

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in front of you, Mr. Papadopoulos, this waiver of 

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indictment? 

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MR. STANLEY: We do not, there was only one. 

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THE COURT: Let me just make sure that you've 

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taken a look at that. I just want to make sure that's your 

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signature? 

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THE DEFENDANT: Yes, it is. 

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THE COURT: So I'm going to go ahead and sign that 

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document as well then. Do you understand, Mr. Papadopoulos, 

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THE DEFENDANT: Yes, I do. 

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THE COURT: And if you plead not guilty, do you 

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understand that you would have a right to a jury trial? 

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That would mean that 12 citizens would sit in the jury box. 

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and they would decide your innocence or guilt based solely 

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on the evidence presented in the courtroom? 

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a trial, you'd have a right to be represented by your lawyer 

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at that trial and at every other stage of the proceeding? 

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THE DEFENDANT: Yes, I do. 

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THE COURT: And do you understand that at trial. 

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you'd have a right through your lawyer to confront and 

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cross-examine any witnesses against you? 

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THE DEFENDANT: Yes, I do. 

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THE COURT: And do you understand that at trial 

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you would have a right to present your own witnesses, and 

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you would have the right to require or to compel them to 

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come to court and to testify in your case? 

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THE DEFENDANT: Now I do, yes. 

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THE COURT: Do you have any questions about that? 

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THE DEFENDANT: No. 

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THE COURT: Do you understand that if there were a 

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trial, you'd have a right to testify and present evidence on 

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wouldn't have to testify or present evidence? And that's 

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because it's the Government that has the burden of proving 

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your guilt beyond a reasonable doubt? 

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THE DEFENDANT: Yes. 

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THE COURT: And do you understand that if you 

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decided not to testify in the case, that you could request 

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that I instruct the jury and I would instruct the jury that 

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the jury could not hold against you the fact that you were 

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not testifying? 

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THE DEFENDANT: Yes, now I do. 

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THE COURT: Do you understand that unless and 

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until I accept your guilty plea, you're presumed by the law 

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to be innocent because it's the Government's burden to prove 

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your guilt beyond a reasonable doubt; and that you cannot be 

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convicted at trial until the Government carries that burden? 

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THE DEFENDANT: Yes. 

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THE COURT: And do you understand that if you went 

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to trial and you were convicted, you'd have a right to 

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appeal your conviction to the Court of Appeals and to have 

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the assistance of a lawyer in preparing your appeal? 

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THE DEFENDANT: Yes. 

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THE COURT: And do you understand that by pleading 

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guilty, you're giving up your rights to appeal with certain 

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exceptions? And I want to take a minute to go through the 

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exceptions. The exceptions are that you can appeal your 



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conviction if you believe that your guilty plea was somehow 

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unlawful or involuntary or there was some other fundamental 

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defect in the proceeding that was not waived by your guilty 

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plea. If you're unable to pay the cost of appeal, you may 

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appeal what's referred to as in forma pauperis which means 

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without paying the fee. If you appealed in forma pauperis. 

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the Clerk of the Court would prepare the notice of appeal 

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for you. 

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In addition, under the terms of the plea 

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agreement, you're agreeing to waive your right to appeal 

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your sentence in the case except to the extent that I were 

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to impose a sentence that was above the statutory maximum or 

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guidelines range or if you assert that you received 

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ineffective assistance of counsel in which case you could 

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appeal. 

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But as to all of this, you would be limited to 

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appealing just to those issues? 

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THE DEFENDANT: Yes. 

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THE COURT: And do you understand that you're also 

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agreeing to waive your right to bring what we refer to as a 

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collateral challenge? And that's a separate motion or 

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action that is brought after you're sentenced in the case 

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that would challenge your conviction or your sentence. And 

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under the terms of the agreement, you're waiving your right 

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such a motion or action is based on newly discovered 

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evidence or on a claim that you received ineffective 

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assistance of counsel? 

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THE DEFENDANT: Yes. 

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THE COURT: And do you also understand that you're 

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reserving your right to seek a reduction in your sentence if 

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the United States Sentencing Commission lowers the 

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applicable sentencing range at a later date; but that under 

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the terms of your agreement, you're agreeing to waive your 

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right to appeal any denial of such a motion? 

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THE DEFENDANT: Yes. 

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THE COURT: And finally, as part of the plea 

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agreement, you're also waiving your right to request records 

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from any department or agency of the United States 

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pertaining to the investigation or prosecution in this case. 

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And that would mean records that you might otherwise be able 

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to seek under FOIA or the Privacy Act? 

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THE DEFENDANT: Yes. 

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THE COURT: I have one question about this, and it 

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may be because the independent counsel in front of me today. 

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they haven't been confronted with this. Our U.S. Attorney's 

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Office has been confronted with this recently. The D.C. 

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Circuit several months ago decided a case called Price 

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versus the Department of Justice in which the Court held 

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plea agreements that waive their FOIA rights unless the 
Government is able to articulate a legitimate criminal 
justice interest for doing so. In that case, the Court held 
that the Government had failed to do so. 

I've had this come up in a number of cases. At 
times, the Government has simply agreed to drop that 
provision from the plea agreement. Otherwise, I think what 
I would need is some showing that there's some particular 
reason in this case why the waiver of FOIA rights serves a 
criminal justice interest. 

MR. ZELINSKY: Your Honor, the criminal justice 
interest being vindicated here is there's a large scale 
ongoing investigation of which this case is a small part. 
FOIA matters related to Mr. Papadopoulos, particularly as 
relates to his plea and as set forth in the statement of 
facts, will necessarily involve potential disclosure of a 
wide variety of information related to those ongoing 
investigative matters. 

THE COURT: Let me hear from Mr. Papadopoulos' 

counsel. 


MR. BREEN: If we can have just a moment, your 

Honor. 

(Brief pause in the proceedings) 

MR. STANLEY: Your Honor, I would just add that 
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was part of an ongoing investigation, the Government could 
just simply deny it under FOIA I would assume. 

THE COURT: I think that's right, although I do 
think that I could understand why it might be a legitimate 
law enforcement concern if they had an ongoing investigation 
in which they were devoting a lot of resources and time to, 
that they wouldn't have to necessarily go through the — 
have to sort of anytime soon go through the process of doing 
detailed declarations to a court to support the proposition 
that in that particular case, that it would undermine the 
process. 

I'm wondering if maybe the right way to handle 
this under the present circumstances is if we might agree to 
just time limit this in some way so that Mr. Papadopoulos is 
not permanently barred from filing a FOIA request for 
records that could relate to this, but also respects that 
law enforcement issues have been articulated. I don't know 
what that time period would be, but perhaps we can just add 
a number of months or years to the provision. 

MR. ZELINSKY: I think that would be acceptable, 
your Honor. The other important factor in this case is that 
in the process of his ongoing efforts to cooperate, the 
Government has shared substantial information with the 
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And it will chill the Government's ability to 

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continue to have the Defendant cooperate if the information 

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that's being provided by the Defendant and the continued 

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efforts to jog his memory are then used to create a road map 

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to the ongoing investigation and the FOIA requests that 

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would ensue from that. 

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FOIA requests, and we are fine with putting a time limit on 

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suggest we do is under the circumstances, I think it's 

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appropriate to come up with a pretty generous window. I'm 

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not asking the Government to be in a position in which it is 

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articulating today in a document that may — when this 

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proceeding is unsealed, then represents a statement of when 

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the Government actually sees this investigation coming to a 

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close. 

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MR. ZELINSKY: Your Honor, perhaps we could put 

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for the length of the Special Counsel's investigation? 

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THE COURT: Why don't we do that. Is that 

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acceptable? 

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and initial it. 

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record, the information I was referring to earlier — that 

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is, that the Government has shared with Mr. Papadopoulos, is 

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all information that Mr. Papadopoulos either created or 

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would have access to initially and was found as a result of 

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searches. The Government was not in any way giving him 

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information that he might not at one point have seen or had 

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access to. We're showing him things that he was unaware of 

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in an attempt to refresh his recollection. 

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THE COURT: Okay, I appreciate that clarification, 

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thank you. 

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Mr. Papadopoulos, those are your initials? 

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THE DEFENDANT: Yes. 

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THE COURT: Okay, thank you. Mr. Papadopoulos, on 

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the final page of this document, the plea agreement, am I 

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correct that that's your signature? 

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THE COURT: Mr. Papadopoulos, going back to all 

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the rights that I just described to you that you have. Do 

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you understand that if you plead guilty in this case, you're 

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giving up all those rights because there's not going to be a 

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trial in the case? 

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THE COURT: Mr. Papadopoulos, what I'm going to do 

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now is I'm going to ask that Mr. Goldstein or Mr. Zelinsky 

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come back up to the podium. What I'm going to ask them to 

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do is to describe in detail what the Government submits it 

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believes it would be able to prove beyond a reasonable doubt 

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if this case were to go to trial. 

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what they say. When they're done, I'm going to ask that you 

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come back up and I'm going to ask you whether everything 

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they've said is absolutely true or whether there's anything 

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that needs to be clarified, modified or was incorrect, okay? 

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THE COURT: Okay, thank you. Mr. Goldstein? 

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recitation of the offense conduct is set forth in the 

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statement of offense that's attached to the plea agreement 

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and that the Defendant signed. But for the purposes of this 

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proceeding, the Government would be able to prove at trial 

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that the Defendant was interviewed by the FBI on 

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January 27th, 2017. During that voluntary interview, the 

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agents with the FBI asked the Defendant a series of 

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questions that pertained to the FBI's ongoing investigation 

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presidential election; and whether there was any 

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In the course of that interview, the Defendant 
made a series of deliberate false statements and deliberate 
omissions that are including, but not limited to, the timing 
of when he met certain individuals that the Defendant 
understood had substantial connections to high-level Russian 
government officials; and the extent and the nature of his 
communication with those individuals and with certain 
Russian nationals that he was communicating with during the 
campaign. 

The Government would be able to prove this conduct 
by, among other evidence, a record of the statement itself 
which was recorded; e-mails; text messages; communications 
via social media such as Facebook; Skype records; records of 
internet searches; location data; and other evidence which 
would show that the Defendant's statements that were made 
during that January 27th interview were false. And that he 
knew that they were false at the time they were made, and 
that there was a deliberate effort to provide false 
information to the Government. 

THE COURT: Okay, thank you. Mr. Papadopoulos, 
you're welcome to come back up with your counsel. 

Mr. Papadopoulos, is what Mr. Goldstein just 
described completely accurate? 

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THE DEFENDANT: No. 

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THE COURT: And Mr. Stanley, do you concur in 

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that? 

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MR. STANLEY: I do, your Honor. 

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THE COURT: Mr. Stanley, if the Government were to 

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take its case to trial, do you concur that the Government 

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would be able to prove each of the necessary elements of the 

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offense beyond a reasonable doubt? 

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MR. STANLEY: Yes, your Honor. 

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THE COURT: Mr. Papadopoulos, do you have in front 

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of you the statement of offense? 

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THE DEFENDANT: Yes, I do, your Honor. 

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THE COURT: And did you read that document 

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carefully? 

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THE DEFENDANT: Yes, I did, your Honor. 

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THE COURT: Is everything in that document true? 

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THE DEFENDANT: Yes, it is, your Honor. 

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THE DEFENDANT: Yes, it is, your Honor. 

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that you think needs to be clarified or amended? 

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talking about the plea agreement and the potential sentence 

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in the case. 

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of you, Mr. Papadopoulos? 

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THE DEFENDANT: Yes, I do, your Honor. 

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THE COURT: Have you had a chance to read that 

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carefully? 

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THE DEFENDANT: Yes, I have, your Honor. 

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THE COURT : Do you understand what's in that 

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document? 

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THE DEFENDANT: Yes, I do. 

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THE COURT: Have you had a chance to talk in 

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detail with your lawyers about that document? 

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THE DEFENDANT: Yes, I have. 

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THE COURT: Have you had a chance to ask them any 

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questions you might have about what's in the plea agreement? 

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THE DEFENDANT: Yes, I have. 

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THE COURT: Do you understand that you are 

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agreeing to plead guilty to one count of making a false 

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statement to the Federal Bureau of Investigation in 

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violation of 18 U.S.C. section 1001? 

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THE DEFENDANT: Yes. 

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sentence of five years of imprisonment? 

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THE DEFENDANT: Yes, I do. 

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THE COURT: And do you understand that in addition 

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to your sentence of imprisonment, I may sentence you to a 

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maximum term of three years of supervised release? And that 

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means that after you're released from prison, if you do 

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serve a period of time in prison, that it will be subject to 

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certain conditions; and if you violated those conditions you 

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could go back to prison? 

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THE DEFENDANT: Yes, I do. 

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THE COURT: Do you understand that in addition to 

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or in place of any sentence of incarceration I may impose on 

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this count, the count also carries a maximum fine of 

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$250,000? 

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THE DEFENDANT: Yes. 

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THE COURT: Do you also understand that you're 

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required to pay a special assessment of $100? 

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THE DEFENDANT: Yes. 

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THE COURT: Mr. Papadopoulos, Congress has created 

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something called the United States Sentencing Commission 

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which has issued a complex set of guidelines that are set 

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forth in this lengthy book right here. The Court's not 

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bound by those guidelines, but I am required to consider 

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them in sentencing. The Commission has set forth sentencing 

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forth in that book. 

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While today we may have some idea what your 

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sentencing guidelines range would be, we're not going to 

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know that for sure until the Probation Office has an 

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opportunity to prepare its report; until your lawyer has an 

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opportunity to review it and comment on it; you've had an 

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opportunity through your lawyer to comment on it and raise 

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any objections; and counsel for the Government has had an 

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opportunity to do so. And at the end of the day it's my 

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decision, I'm the one who will actually decide what the 

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correct sentencing guidelines range is. 

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Do you understand that? 

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THE DEFENDANT: Yes, I do. 

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THE COURT: Today we can give you some idea of 

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what it may be, but I just want to make sure that you 

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understand that today it's our best understanding but that 

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it may change over time? 

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THE DEFENDANT: Yes, I do. 

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THE COURT: Do you also understand that the 

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guidelines are advisory and the Court could impose a 

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sentence outside the guidelines range based on considering 

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the factors that Congress has specified in 18 U.S.C. section 

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THE DEFENDANT: I understand. 

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THE COURT: Have you and your lawyer or lawyers 

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had a chance to talk about the guidelines and how they apply 

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in your case? 

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THE DEFENDANT: Yes. 

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THE COURT: Do you feel as though you understand 

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that? 

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THE DEFENDANT: Yes. 

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THE COURT: Mr. Stanley, do you feel as though 

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Mr. Papadopoulos understands how the guidelines apply? 

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MR. STANLEY: I do, your Honor. 

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THE COURT: So today I can only offer an estimate. 

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and I want to make sure you understand that. Let's walk 

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through what our estimate is today. 

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The parties have agreed that under the guidelines. 

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the base offense level is six. The Government agrees that 

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you're entitled to a two-level reduction if you accept 

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responsibility for your actions, adhere to the plea 

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agreement and display acceptable conduct between now and 

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sentencing. And you also acknowledge in the plea agreement 

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with the Government that the Government is not limited — 

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should you withdraw your guilty plea after it is entered or 
should it be determined by the Government that you either 
engaged in conduct unknown to the Government at the time of 
signing the agreement that constitutes obstruction of 
justice or engaged in additional criminal conduct after 
signing the agreement. 

Do you understand that? 

THE DEFENDANT: I understand. 

THE COURT: So based on the representations and 
based on what I know today, although I don't know for sure, 

I estimate that your applicable guidelines offense level 
would be four. It's also represented that you don't have 
any previous criminal convictions which would put you in 
criminal history category one. Again, that's something we 
won't know for sure until the Probation Office has had an 
opportunity to do its investigation. If it were to disclose 
prior convictions, that would change this. 

But based on the assumption that you're in 
criminal history category one and that your offense level is 
four, that means that the guidelines recommendation for your 
offense would be a term of imprisonment between zero to six 
months. 

Do you understand that? 

THE DEFENDANT: Yes, I do. 

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guidelines would be between $500 and $9,500. Do you 

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understand that? 

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THE DEFENDANT: Yes, I do. 

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plea agreement, you'll have the right to request that I not 

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impose a fine? 

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THE DEFENDANT: Now I do, yes. 

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I've reviewed how the guidelines apply in your case, I could 

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conclude that a departure from the guidelines is appropriate 

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which could make the advisory guidelines sentence either 

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higher or lower? 

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THE DEFENDANT: Yes, I do. 

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plea agreement, that both you and the Government have agreed 

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that you will not seek a departure from the guidelines 

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range? 

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THE DEFENDANT: Yes. 

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so, do you understand that? 

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THE DEFENDANT: Yes. 

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sentence you to a term of imprisonment, you'll serve the 

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full amount of time that I sentenced you to with a possible 

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actually would not be applicable in your case as I'm 

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thinking about this now, because the good time only applies 

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for sentences that are longer than a year. So that would 

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only be the case if I were to vary from the guidelines and 

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sentence you to a term of longer than a year. So let me 

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clarify this. 

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of a year or less of imprisonment, that you will serve that 

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entire period? 

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THE DEFENDANT: Yes, I do. 

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outside the guidelines recommendation that is longer than a 

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year, then you would serve that entire period with a 

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possible reduction of up to 54 days for good time? 

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THE DEFENDANT: Yes, I do. 

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THE COURT: And do you understand that the offense 

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that you're pleading guilty to is a felony, and that if I 

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accept your plea and you're found guilty of that offense you 

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may be deprived of certain valuable civil rights such as the 

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right to vote; the right to hold public office; the right to 

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serve on a jury; and the right to possess any kind of 

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firearm or ammunition? 

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THE DEFENDANT: Yes, I do. 

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Counsel's office, anyone you've come into contact with since 

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the time of your arrest promised or suggested to you that 

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merely because you're pleading guilty you're guaranteed a 

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lighter sentence in this case? 

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THE DEFENDANT: No, your Honor. 

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THE COURT: Has anyone forced, threatened or 

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coerced you in any way to enter into a guilty plea? 

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THE DEFENDANT: No, your Honor. 

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THE COURT: Do you understand that the agreement 

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reached in this case was the result of negotiations between 

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your lawyers and the lawyers for the Government? 

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THE DEFENDANT: Yes, I do, your Honor. 

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THE COURT: Has anyone made any promise to you in 

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connection with your guilty plea other than those that are 

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contained in the plea agreement or stated here in open 

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court? 

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THE DEFENDANT: No, your Honor. 

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THE COURT: Do you understand at this time I don't 

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know what sentence I will impose in this case because I 

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haven't heard from your lawyers, the lawyers for the 

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Government, from the Probation Office and from you if you 

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wanted to be heard? 

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THE DEFENDANT: Yes, your Honor. 

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case against you that you'd like to understand before you 

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make a decision? 

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THE DEFENDANT: No, your Honor. 

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THE COURT: Anything you want to talk to your 

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lawyer about first? 

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THE DEFENDANT: I don't. 

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THE COURT: Is there anything further that the 

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Government suggests that the Court inquire about? 

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MR. GOLDSTEIN: No, your Honor. 

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THE COURT: Okay. Anything further the defense 

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suggests the Court inquire about at this time? 

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MR. STANLEY: No, your Honor. 

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THE COURT: So Mr. Papadopoulos, are you ready to 

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make a decision about whether you want to enter a plea of 

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guilty or whether you wish to go to trial in this case? 

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THE DEFENDANT: Yes, your Honor. 

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THE COURT: And what's your decision? 

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THE DEFENDANT: I'd like to plead guilty, your 

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Honor. 

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guilty voluntarily and of your own free will because you are 

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guilty and for no other reason? 

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nature of the charges and the consequences of the plea, and 
that the plea of guilty is a knowing and voluntary plea 
supported by an independent basis in fact containing each of 
the essential elements of the offense. 

The plea is therefore accepted, and the Defendant 
is adjudged guilty of count one of the information, making 
false statements to the Federal Bureau of Investigation, in 
violation of 18 U.S.C. section 1001. 

I'm going to sign the waiver of trial by jury. 

With respect to Mr. Papadopoulos' status pending sentencing, 
am I correct in understanding that the parties are in 
agreement that Mr. Papadopoulos should remain on release 
pending sentencing? 

MR. GOLDSTEIN: That's correct, your Honor. And 
there is — if we could be heard just about a modification 
of the Defendant's bail conditions? 

THE COURT: Okay, you're welcome to do so. One 
thing I will do is I'm going to direct that the Defendant 
call the pretrial officer Tammy Everett immediately after 
the hearing today also with respect to finalizing his 
release pending sentencing. 

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have a seat just for a moment. 

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MR. GOLDSTEIN: At the Defendant's arrest and then 

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initial appearance in the Eastern District of Virginia, the 

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conditions that were set were surrender of his passport and 

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no new applications. His travel was restricted to the 

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Northern District of Illinois, the Eastern District of 

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Virginia and the District of Columbia. 

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And he was directed not to have any contact. 

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direct or indirect, with individuals relating to the 

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campaign or to any of the conduct set forth in the 

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complaint. The Government provided a list of those 

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individuals to the Defendant and defense counsel. 

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The only modification that we seek at this time is 

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for the Defendant to be permitted to travel anywhere within 

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the United States, but on the condition that he provide 

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advanced notice to and obtain consent from both the 

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Government and the Pretrial Services Office prior to any 

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travel. And if he doesn't obtain such consent, then he can 

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raise it with the Court. But without obtaining advanced 

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consent, he would not be able to travel outside of those 

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three original districts. 

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those be the terms of Mr. Papadopoulos' release pending 
sentencing. I have in front of me a report from Pretrial 
Services that doesn't include the list of the names of the 
individuals where there was no contact. 

Is that something that actually should be in the 
order that Pretrial Services would enter or is that 
something that is going to be done separately just with an 
understanding with the Office of the Special Counsel? I 
wasn't sure how it was done in Virginia. 

MR. GOLDSTEIN: The list was not provided to 
Pretrial Services in Virginia. We are happy to provide a 
list to the Court and to the Pretrial Services Office. The 
Defendant and counsel has the list and they know who those 
individuals are. 

MR. BREEN: That's correct, we've honored the 
request that was entered earlier, and I don't anticipate any 
contact with those individuals. That list was given to the 
Defendant in our presence. We went through it and explained 
it to him. So I think we're monitoring it pretty well. 

THE COURT: Well, it sounds to me as though the 
parties understand what the terms are. I don't think you 
need to provide me with a copy of the list as long as the 
parties understand who is on the list and there's not a 
disagreement about that. If that's something that's 
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MR. GOLDSTEIN: Thank you, your Honor. 

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THE COURT: And then I'm going to sign an order 

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just providing for routine processing. If there are any 

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issues that come up with respect to the terms or any 

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uncertainty with respect to the conditions of release 

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pending sentencing, the parties are welcome to just contact 

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me about that. If you even wanted to do it telephonically. 

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we probably could do something along those lines if there's 

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any uncertainty that comes up. 

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MR. BREEN: Judge, there is one thing in the 

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pretrial report that indicates that Mr. Papadopoulos should 

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call in every week. While I know that's not horribly 

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burdensome, he's in constant contact with our office. I 

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really don't see that as a necessary condition. Maybe once 

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a month would do it. 

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THE COURT: That is a standard condition I think. 

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does seem to me that it's not terribly burdensome. I 

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understand it's not fun to do, but just to make a brief 

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telephone call to check in doesn't seem terribly burdensome 

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to me. 

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in Chicago and it's only required to be done telephonically 

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that that condition remain in place. 

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THE COURT: Why don't I leave that in place. 

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because it just doesn't strike me that it's terribly 

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burdensome to him to do that. 

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So just for purposes of the record, here are the 

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additional conditions: Mr. Papadopoulos shall report to 

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Pretrial Services weekly by phone as we just discussed. He 

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shall verify his address with Pretrial Services immediately 

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or by the next business day; that he live at XXXXXXXXXXXXXXX 

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There's a telephone number that's provided here that I'm not 

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going to put on the record at this point because these 

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proceedings may be unsealed at some point. 

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I don't know, Mr. Papadopoulos, if you'd prefer 

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that if these proceedings are unsealed at some point, if 

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your address remain confidential as well? 

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THE DEFENDANT: Yes, sir. 

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THE COURT: So I know this whole proceeding is 

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under seal, but let me ask that within the transcript that 

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Mr. Papadopoulos' address be sealed further so that if the 

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transcript is otherwise released that that would not be 

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revealed. 

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and that he only travel outside of the three jurisdictions 

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that we discussed with prior authorization. 

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Is Mr. Papadopoulos' passport going to be returned 

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to him at this point? Does he have the passport? 

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MR. GOLDSTEIN: He does not, it was surrendered at 

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the time of his arrest. The Government would hold onto 

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that. 

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THE COURT: So Mr. Papadopoulos will not apply for 

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or possess a passport; surrender all passports that he may 

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have that are not already surrendered to Pretrial Services. 

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passport to him, that he then turn it over to Pretrial 

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Services within 24 hours. 

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Anything further with respect to the conditions of 

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release? 

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MR. GOLDSTEIN: No, your Honor. 

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MR. STANLEY: No, your Honor. 

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THE COURT: Okay. So the only other thing that — 

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I guess two other things to discuss. We should discuss 

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either a sentencing date or whether you just want to provide 

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me with a status report at some point or a check-in with 

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respect to sentencing if you're not ready to specify a date. 

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Why don't we start with that. 

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where we can come back to the Court and see if that would be 

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the right time to then set a sentencing date. 

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THE COURT: Okay. If it turns out that the 

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parties are in agreement before that date, that we can 

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actually use that date as a sentencing date. You can 

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jointly notify the Courtroom Deputy and provide the 

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paperwork to me. Well, I take that back. We'll have to 

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order a presentence report, and we're not ready to order a 

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presentence report. So let's just do a status check-in 

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then. 

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What is the defense's position? 

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MR. BREEN: Judge, we have no objection to the 

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90-day status or whatever you want to call it. 

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THE COURT: So we'll have a status conference in 

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90 days. Let's just pick a date while everyone is here. 

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MR. BREEN: Can that be by phone, your Honor? 

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THE COURT: Any objection to doing that by 

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telephone? 

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MR. GOLDSTEIN: No objection, your Honor. 

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THE COURT: Okay. I assume that Mr. Papadopoulos 

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would be on the telephone for the call? 

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MR. BREEN: He will if you ask us. Judge. 

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THE COURT: I think he should be. If we're doing 

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that by telephone, I'd like to make clear on the record that 

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THE COURT: Mr. Papadopoulos, do you understand 

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that you'd be waiving your right to be present in person and 

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would just participate by telephone? 

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THE DEFENDANT: Yes, I do, your Honor. 

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THE COURT: Any objection to that? 

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THE DEFENDANT: No. 

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telephone. So I think we're talking about some time in mid 

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January. 

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How about January 22nd at 11:00 a.m.? 

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MR. GOLDSTEIN: That's fine with the Government, 

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your Honor. 

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MR. STANLEY: That's fine, your Honor. 

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THE COURT: I was actually being considerate of 

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the people from Chicago. 

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slightly different time than the rest of us. 

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sensitive to the fact that there are First Amendment 

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considerations with respect to this proceeding. As 

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proceedings under seal and to have them remain under seal so 
as not to interfere with an ongoing investigation. 

Going forward though, I want to make sure that 
that process doesn't take any longer than necessary and that 
the public does have access to these proceedings as soon as 
it can consistent with not undermining an ongoing 
investigation. 

So Mr. Goldstein, I don't know if you want to 
speak to that. I think my order, as was proposed by your 
office, provides for I think a status check-in, just filing 
in 30 days to let me know what the status is. If I can just 
ask you to maybe indicate for me what you anticipate by when 
this may be made public and what the process would be for 
doing that. 

MR. GOLDSTEIN: We put 30 days in the proposed 
order, your Honor, because we too are sensitive and 
understand the First Amendment concerns that are at issue. 
There are, as we put in the motion, certain aspects of the 
ongoing investigation that we believe and we submitted to 
the Court at this time give reason for sealing. When those 
reasons don't exist anymore — and we believe that it will 
be in the near term, that we will immediately alert the 
Court and ask for the proceedings to be unsealed. 

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period as set forth in the order, we will come back and 
explain to the Court why continued sealing is necessary. 

THE COURT: Okay. Anything from the defense on 
that issue? 

MR. BREEN: No, your Honor. We have not objected 
to this at all. There is a benefit I feel to our client. 

And I certainly understand the Special Prosecutor's position 
on this matter considering the very expansive investigation 
that's going forward. 

THE COURT: Okay, so we'll leave it that way. 

I'll expect a report in 30 days. If there's a need to 
revisit the issue at that point, we can do so then. 

Anything further from the Government today? 

MR. GOLDSTEIN: No, your Honor. Thank you. 

THE COURT: Anything further from the defense? 

MR. BREEN: No, your Honor. 

THE COURT: Well, thank you all. 

(Proceedings adjourned at 2:59 p.m.) 



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CERTIFICATE 


I, Jeff M. Hook, CSR, RPR, certify that the 
foregoing is a correct transcript from the record of 
proceedings in the above-entitled matter. 









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